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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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BadgKat
United States156 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
I see that move as a way to protect his community. Pretty good episode, it introuced the Governor very well imo. So far this season is wayyyy above the other two, I really hope it keeps to be that way, it's an actual good show. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
1. It's the US military and it seems like he wants to be the new government, so he doesn't want any US government oversight on his town he has going. 2. It was an opportunity to keep the people scared into staying, and perhaps, finding something better. Scared people also tend to follow like sheep much easier, it is a tactic that has been used to control people for centuries. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
Sure they saw them kill those guys, but as soon as they found out that they turned they were still rude as fuck lol. They may be fuckheads, but Andrea and Michonne don't know that xD. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
I did like how Merle said any man who walks up to you without a weapon is a man you don't want to deal with, and then that's exactly how the Governor approached the military group (in fact he had a flag, so he seemed entirely defenceless). Could have been a bit more exciting, but I think they needed to flesh out the governor and his world so we can see both sides in the later conflicts. Also thought Andrea and Michonne we're really bad this episode. Just all around how they acted felt really off. Andrea seemed overly accepting and Michonne just seemed pissy. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
Concerning Michonne I have very tepid emotions towards how they are handling her. As others have said, her origins in the comic as an outsider even amongst the group, and the lack of that in the show is really hurting the character. There was no depiction of the time where Andrea wasn't sure if she could trust Michonne, no really good demonstration at how cunning, strong, and completely badass Michonne had to be to earn Andrea's trust. She's just thrown into the show at the end of last season and now they're sort-of bffs immediately. This lack of getting-to-know the character now makes her behavior look moody and stuck-up rather than strong-willed and defiant in the face of adversity as she looks in the comic. Even if her instincts are right, it still doesn't make sense on screen. They've been on the run for months, and she gets all the amenities in the world, she can remain suspicious of the guy without seeming like the producers injected something in her face to keep it paralyzed in that same stupid squinting look. + Show Spoiler [comic stuffs] + Its like TV-Michonne knows what the Governor does to Comic-Michonne and is just waiting for him to whip his dick out or something so she can immediately lop the thing off. Last thing - I hate how idyllic Woodbury looks in the show. Its like its out of the stepford wives or something. I'm assuming that's the angle they were trying to go for, show how wrong things are underneath the pretty exterior, but everyone watching this show knows this guy is bad news. In going for this angle it feels like too much. They can have things good without having practically everything, without having lush lawns, perfectly manicured streets, and flowers everywhere. It's almost comical. Contrast this to the comics where you get the sense that while they are relatively safe and prosperous in Woodbury, the place doesn't strike you as the almost vacation-spot like area you see on TV. There's also other huge elements to the town that are completely absent, disappointingly. On October 29 2012 13:09 Yergidy wrote: I think the governor killed the convoy for 2 reasons: 1. It's the US military and it seems like he wants to be the new government, so he doesn't want any US government oversight on his town he has going. 2. It was an opportunity to keep the people scared into staying, and perhaps, finding something better. Scared people also tend to follow like sheep much easier, it is a tactic that has been used to control people for centuries. Consider the options - fight and take the supplies, it has risk but the kinds of risks the governor is willing to take, and with serious grade military supplies their chances of survival skyrocket so long as there are no fractures within Woodbury. As opposed to actually trying to assimilate them which has all sorts of risks he cannot take. Bringing in another group that large and relatively powerful considering their weapons could severely destabilize his role of power in the town. This is ignoring the "they're the U.S. Army" angle they'd have on him to use to get the town folk on their side. Basically he's cool with losing a few guys of his own in a gunfight, but not putting any of his power at risk. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On October 29 2012 14:54 D u o wrote: So I was under the assumption that the show wasn't at all related to the graphic novels, I just bought the whole graphic novel series and haven't started reading at all. Is it true that they're not connected? If they are, roughly, how far in the series are we [in book #'s.] + Show Spoiler + I haven't read the comics for ages but I think we would be around 1/3 through the comics now. As it currently stands, the show follows the comics general plot exactly the same (For example, Rick goes from the city, to that woods camp they had going, to Hershel's farm, to the prison. However, the character development is slightly different. Some characters die earlier that didn't die in the show, some live on for the entire series of the comics while some characters in the show have died. There are differences, but you can gather what is going to happen in the show if you have read the books. I think the producer of the show has done an excellent job, he makes it different enough from the comics that the people who have read the comics have something to look forward to, however he doesn't stray to far to the extent where the comics have no relevance to the show. | ||
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Paradise`
United States201 Posts
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On October 29 2012 15:03 Paradise` wrote: I wanted to see Rick's group..... FML now I have to wait another week I am happy that they strayed away from that group. It feels like they are developing a really big story for this season. Unlike the other season 2 that was 1 dimensional... | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On October 29 2012 15:05 blug wrote: I am happy that they strayed away from that group. It feels like they are developing a really big story for this season. Unlike the other season 2 that was 1 dimensional... They got away from the primary group, but the episode was still very one-dimensional. Point being they can tell both stories simultaneously, it breaks things up and gives us less of a chance of growing tired seeing the same characters on screen all episode. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On October 29 2012 15:02 blug wrote: + Show Spoiler + I haven't read the comics for ages but I think we would be around 1/3 through the comics now. As it currently stands, the show follows the comics general plot exactly the same (For example, Rick goes from the city, to that woods camp they had going, to Hershel's farm, to the prison. However, the character development is slightly different. Some characters die earlier that didn't die in the show, some live on for the entire series of the comics while some characters in the show have died. There are differences, but you can gather what is going to happen in the show if you have read the books. I think the produced of the show has done an excellent job, he makes it different enough from the comics that the people who have read the comics have something to look forward to, however he doesn't stray to far to the extent where the comics have no relevance to the show. Thank you. ^__^ Guess I'll have to read now. xP From what I've heard they're amazing. I don't really enjoy being that late to the bandwagon sort of person, welp. SWALLOW MY PRIDE. Right after I finish this faces of death volume 1 I'll be diving right into walking dead. :D On October 29 2012 15:07 p4NDemik wrote: Approximately issue #27. The overarching stories are connected, but the show has largely dropped any attempt at being consistent with major plot developments in the comic. There are details they include like the helicopter and the zombie aquariums that are consistent, but the characters are at very different places and thus their interactions (the actual plot) are altered almost entirely. hm ok, thanks. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On October 29 2012 15:07 D u o wrote: Thank you. ^__^ Guess I'll have to read now. xP From what I've heard they're amazing. I don't really enjoy being that late to the bandwagon sort of person, welp. SWALLOW MY PRIDE. Right after I finish this faces of death volume 1 I'll be diving right into walking dead. :D hm ok, thanks. Np mate! | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
Consider the options - fight and take the supplies, it has risk but the kinds of risks the governor is willing to take, and with serious grade military supplies their chances of survival skyrocket so long as there are no fractures within Woodbury. As opposed to actually trying to assimilate them which has all sorts of risks he cannot take. Bringing in another group that large and relatively powerful considering their weapons could severely destabilize his role of power in the town. This is ignoring the "they're the U.S. Army" angle they'd have on him to use to get the town folk on their side. Basically he's cool with losing a few guys of his own in a gunfight, but not putting any of his power at risk. Ah, I did forget about the supplies, that was a big part of it as well. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On October 29 2012 13:09 Yergidy wrote: I think the governor killed the convoy for 2 reasons: 1. It's the US military and it seems like he wants to be the new government, so he doesn't want any US government oversight on his town he has going. 2. It was an opportunity to keep the people scared into staying, and perhaps, finding something better. Scared people also tend to follow like sheep much easier, it is a tactic that has been used to control people for centuries. 3. Men to women ratio has to be 1 : 1.2 or something like that. Too many men wondering around with no future is disaster to happen. If there are more men then some people will be unhappy and fighting might happen. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On October 29 2012 15:19 p4NDemik wrote: Last thing - how does an outfit of trained soldiers who have survived months in the zombie apocalypse get caught so totally unaware of their surroundings? These are the people most likely to be keeping a constant watch of their surroundings, to be honed in and aware of when they are being followed or watched. Even if you were to completely surprise them, on what planet do they get slaughtered without dishing out any kind of resistance. It was like lambs to the slaughter in that scene. I can understand the possibility of being ambushed like that, you don't exactly see people as a threat in a zombie apocalypse. You try to survive against the Walkers, not people themselves. It may of looked kind of dumb the fact that they didn't fire back with resistance, but you must remember that these guys were mostly kids and probably were scared shitless when they heard gun fire. Don't get me wrong, I've never been fired upon with real live ammo, however I have been paint balling a few times and understand what it's liked to be surrounded with no cover being shot from multiple angles. You feel helpless and you sit there like a rabbit about to be hit by a car with strong head lights. | ||
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