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On March 21 2012 19:27 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 19:19 krok(obs) wrote:
just a question on the side, unrelated to all the complaints about writing, lori and carl :-)
did we ever get an explanation as to how sophia ended up in the barn? afaik we are never told
whether she got bit or died of other causes and then turned. and how did she come to be in the barn?
someone from the farm must have put her there at some point full well knowing that this might
be the little girl the newly arrived group is looking for. and then why were there no repercussions? pretty sure otis found her as a zombie and put her in there. Shane killed him before anyone could bring up the missing girl
so....otis found her after he had turned into a zombie and then brought here there? all the while shuffling and groaning? :-D
haha, ok i get what you really mean. thats a possibility i guess. she must have turned really quickly then. i guess
she was bitten after all or maybe fell down a cliff or sth. i dont think a lot of time passed between them losing her
and finding the farm. thanks for the answer!
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Season finale was decent enough because of SPOILER ALERT ABOUT HOODED WOMAN: + Show Spoiler + and since the Shane is dead, FINALLY, I probably can gather my hopes for the season 3. SPOILER ALERT ABOUT SEASON 3: + Show Spoiler +because of the people who waits inside the jail. In worst case it will be another drama season since Hershell will be farming some plants in the yard looool.
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Yeah I reckon season 3 will probably develop a lot like season 2. There'll be a lot of talking and human drama in the first half (to save budget money) and then we'll get all the action in the second half.
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On March 21 2012 20:32 RowdierBob wrote:
Yeah I reckon season 3 will probably develop a lot like season 2. There'll be a lot of talking and human drama in the first half (to save budget money) and then we'll get all the action in the second half.
Comic spoiler+ Show Spoiler +If you've read the time they spent jail there will be a peaceful time which will probably get bit boring for some of the viewers. Surely, if they are getting the same characters like in book to be in jail it will be interesting how things will develop.
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From reading a little bit about the prison part, there seems to be a lot of action.
I obviously won't spoil it though.
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No spoilers: + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 10:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On March 21 2012 08:30 VediVeci wrote:
This thread has gotten really difficult to read. I respect everyone's right to voice their opinions, but there's a limit to how many times I, and I suspect many others, want to read about how Lori pisses everyone off, or Carl is acted poorly, or that the show isn't entirely realistic or consistent. These are all valid complaints of course, and they are worth voicing from time to time, but I think eventually we start to miss the forest for the trees when we focus so heavily and these relatively minor issues. The Walking Dead is a compelling show that alot of people really enjoy, and it would be great to see more celebration of that and more discussion of the shows plot, themes, and other devices, and less harping on widely accepted but not overly consequential flaws.
EDIT: So i guess some people have pretty big problems with the acting, how internally consistent the show is and whatever, and find it to be pretty consequential. I still enjoy the show though, and the sentiment I expressed still stands. Some shows are about details and fixing minor issues, some not. For example, Rick not telling about how everyone has been infected would get me angry for putting me at danger If I have to kill non zombie and not knowing that he/she comes back as zombie (unless shot to head etc). I would care less that we all got it. It just seems that writers (mainly lazy too) have problems when they are using recent ethic/morale dilemmas rather than going back 200-500 years how people survived that time. Sure they can use technology we have this time to look it good. Another example is Randall situation. Basically thinking to return Randall back to other group is way too hasty thinking (they saw him hurt and left -> other group assumes he is dead). I would just list pros/cons and see if he is useful for our group and then decide fate. As you can see how people are getting annoyed how Lori is not suitable for apocalypse scenes. Causes problems between people (Rick & Shane), puts other people to danger (Maggie & Glenn), can't keep eye on her kid and complaining about things (lowers morale). No wonder people are angry about her. I might ask what makes this series good for you? For me its survival and realism. I would care less about Loris relationship problems. At least Carl is changing "lifestyle" how it should be .
This post made my think of the bar "fight" in the last season. If everybody is infected, how come those two men didn't come back as zombies? Just a thought^^
Anyway, I love this show. It takes zombies to an all-new level. 
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On March 22 2012 11:09 Blossom wrote:Show nested quote + No spoilers: + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 10:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On March 21 2012 08:30 VediVeci wrote:
This thread has gotten really difficult to read. I respect everyone's right to voice their opinions, but there's a limit to how many times I, and I suspect many others, want to read about how Lori pisses everyone off, or Carl is acted poorly, or that the show isn't entirely realistic or consistent. These are all valid complaints of course, and they are worth voicing from time to time, but I think eventually we start to miss the forest for the trees when we focus so heavily and these relatively minor issues. The Walking Dead is a compelling show that alot of people really enjoy, and it would be great to see more celebration of that and more discussion of the shows plot, themes, and other devices, and less harping on widely accepted but not overly consequential flaws.
EDIT: So i guess some people have pretty big problems with the acting, how internally consistent the show is and whatever, and find it to be pretty consequential. I still enjoy the show though, and the sentiment I expressed still stands. Some shows are about details and fixing minor issues, some not. For example, Rick not telling about how everyone has been infected would get me angry for putting me at danger If I have to kill non zombie and not knowing that he/she comes back as zombie (unless shot to head etc). I would care less that we all got it. It just seems that writers (mainly lazy too) have problems when they are using recent ethic/morale dilemmas rather than going back 200-500 years how people survived that time. Sure they can use technology we have this time to look it good. Another example is Randall situation. Basically thinking to return Randall back to other group is way too hasty thinking (they saw him hurt and left -> other group assumes he is dead). I would just list pros/cons and see if he is useful for our group and then decide fate. As you can see how people are getting annoyed how Lori is not suitable for apocalypse scenes. Causes problems between people (Rick & Shane), puts other people to danger (Maggie & Glenn), can't keep eye on her kid and complaining about things (lowers morale). No wonder people are angry about her. I might ask what makes this series good for you? For me its survival and realism. I would care less about Loris relationship problems. At least Carl is changing "lifestyle" how it should be . This post made my think of the bar "fight" in the last season. If everybody is infected, how come those two men didn't come back as zombies? Just a thought^^ Anyway, I love this show. It takes zombies to an all-new level.
The turning point is very different, as Jenner said at the end of season 1. I think he said the quickest turning was something like 4 minutes, and someone took 8 hours?
Though that begs the question that it had surely been 8 hours(since it randomly went from day to night from episode 7-8 =\) since Rick killed the two of them. Oh well though, I guess all shows are allowed plot holes.
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This post made my think of the bar "fight" in the last season. If everybody is infected, how come those two men didn't come back as zombies? Just a thought^^ Anyway, I love this show. It takes zombies to an all-new level.
Bcus Rick shot 'em both in the head.
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On March 21 2012 03:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Hahaha T-Dog.
welp zombie outbreak, TIME TO START OVER WITH THESE TWO WHITE CHICKS
Haha, Yea T-Dog is like, "Forget them, how 'bout us 3 head out east? I hear Miami's nice this time of year." 
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On March 22 2012 11:14 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:09 Blossom wrote: No spoilers: + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 10:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On March 21 2012 08:30 VediVeci wrote:
This thread has gotten really difficult to read. I respect everyone's right to voice their opinions, but there's a limit to how many times I, and I suspect many others, want to read about how Lori pisses everyone off, or Carl is acted poorly, or that the show isn't entirely realistic or consistent. These are all valid complaints of course, and they are worth voicing from time to time, but I think eventually we start to miss the forest for the trees when we focus so heavily and these relatively minor issues. The Walking Dead is a compelling show that alot of people really enjoy, and it would be great to see more celebration of that and more discussion of the shows plot, themes, and other devices, and less harping on widely accepted but not overly consequential flaws.
EDIT: So i guess some people have pretty big problems with the acting, how internally consistent the show is and whatever, and find it to be pretty consequential. I still enjoy the show though, and the sentiment I expressed still stands. Some shows are about details and fixing minor issues, some not. For example, Rick not telling about how everyone has been infected would get me angry for putting me at danger If I have to kill non zombie and not knowing that he/she comes back as zombie (unless shot to head etc). I would care less that we all got it. It just seems that writers (mainly lazy too) have problems when they are using recent ethic/morale dilemmas rather than going back 200-500 years how people survived that time. Sure they can use technology we have this time to look it good. Another example is Randall situation. Basically thinking to return Randall back to other group is way too hasty thinking (they saw him hurt and left -> other group assumes he is dead). I would just list pros/cons and see if he is useful for our group and then decide fate. As you can see how people are getting annoyed how Lori is not suitable for apocalypse scenes. Causes problems between people (Rick & Shane), puts other people to danger (Maggie & Glenn), can't keep eye on her kid and complaining about things (lowers morale). No wonder people are angry about her. I might ask what makes this series good for you? For me its survival and realism. I would care less about Loris relationship problems. At least Carl is changing "lifestyle" how it should be . This post made my think of the bar "fight" in the last season. If everybody is infected, how come those two men didn't come back as zombies? Just a thought^^ Anyway, I love this show. It takes zombies to an all-new level. The turning point is very different, as Jenner said at the end of season 1. I think he said the quickest turning was something like 4 minutes, and someone took 8 hours? Though that begs the question that it had surely been 8 hours(since it randomly went from day to night from episode 7-8 =\) since Rick killed the two of them. Oh well though, I guess all shows are allowed plot holes.
They show Rick going in to put the headshot on the fat guy after that confrontation. There were no plot holes there. Also, it definitely wasn't over 8 hours between their death and Rick, Hershel and Glen's departure from the bar, it was likely only an hour at most.
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Did anyone else notice in the first scene, the zombies were eating the horse that Rick rode in Season 1?
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On March 22 2012 11:30 SkimGuy wrote:
Did anyone else notice in the first scene, the zombies were eating the horse that Rick rode in Season 1?
That's what they were showing. The helicopter that flew over the city is what brought the herd of zombies to the farm. They're trying to get people to realize that.
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And the fact that it took all season of continuous wandering of the herd to reach the farm, which shows how relentless the zombies are.
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My coworkers and I spent the last 2 hours Friday half-working while attempting to predict who would die in the season finale. Our "who we THINK will die" list was 100% correct. Our "who we HOPE will die" list was not. 
(carl)
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Holy shit the hooded chick. That's all I have to say after watching the finale. Great episode overall.
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On March 22 2012 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:30 SkimGuy wrote:
Did anyone else notice in the first scene, the zombies were eating the horse that Rick rode in Season 1? That's what they were showing. The helicopter that flew over the city is what brought the herd of zombies to the farm. They're trying to get people to realize that.
I thought it was just showing that the helicopter was real, and there is some kind of established presence somewhere with access to military vehicles.
Also that little things like a helicopter flying by has huge consequences.
The explanation of "zombie herds" felt secondary to me.
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On March 22 2012 16:24 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 22 2012 11:30 SkimGuy wrote:
Did anyone else notice in the first scene, the zombies were eating the horse that Rick rode in Season 1? That's what they were showing. The helicopter that flew over the city is what brought the herd of zombies to the farm. They're trying to get people to realize that. I thought it was just showing that the helicopter was real, and there is some kind of established presence somewhere with access to military vehicles.
Well...Military vehicules arent so hard to find...All around the CDC there was like a ton of UMV,tanks and choppers and near the hospital in episode 1 there was 3 choppers...However, I think it means someone who knows how to pilot those things is still alive so they might be able to fly around the world in search of a safe place...
Also, I got banned for 2 days because I spoilered something in the spoiler brackets earlier when I said why S3 in the comics seemed so dark...I dont understand? Does this happened to anyone?
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On March 22 2012 16:26 LoLAdriankat wrote:TV specific spoilers on season 3. Nothing to do with the comic. + Show Spoiler +
That was the one loose end I was really wondering if they'd forgotten about, and also the one that piqued my interest the most. Eager to see how that develops, because it was a pretty interesting character.
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On March 22 2012 23:44 Rob28 wrote:That was the one loose end I was really wondering if they'd forgotten about, and also the one that piqued my interest the most. Eager to see how that develops, because it was a pretty interesting character.
I'm hoping for an epic confrontation between Daryl and Merle. Daryl has these terrible memories of how terrible of a person Merle is but also loves him because it is his brother. Could be a really awesome little story arc. Daryl wrestling with his blood, does he stay the good guy that he is or does he join his brother and become the ultimate heartless badass? My favorite season 2 episode by far was Chupacabra.
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