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maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 11:19 GMT
#61
BF jugg and ember cant do anything against NS. VG needs to stop the bleeding during nighttime.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:19 GMT
#62
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm watching Paparazzi first person
rofl
how do you not spin vs the root creep xDDD
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:25:18
May 19 2018 11:20 GMT
#63
Eh I wanted to learn a good jugg
But paparazzi doesn't have his day


EDIT: can anyone tell me why paparazi isn't denying almost at all?
The levels are prety important
Is that just cause of cs efficiency?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
May 19 2018 11:27 GMT
#64
Maybe they fixed The games, so Chinese bookies get huge profits :D
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:29:13
May 19 2018 11:27 GMT
#65
roflmao the Paparazzi burns by the casters.

@denies Most core players stop denying after the laning stage to max their time killing creeps. Also generally if the map is open it's more worthwhile to have the waves always pushing as hard as possibly for vision and tower damage.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:28 GMT
#66
Yeah I also don't get the battlefury build
Aren't they just smoked lategame?
If he has manta diffusal thet can pressure dusa and the whole team early
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 11:29 GMT
#67
wow, this is really great play by VG.S. in groups I kinda dismissed them as a typical NA stack that was getting lucky but they're really showing consistently great drafting and execution. they let through bane and doom but VG haven't really accrued the early and midgame advantage that we've been seeing from those heroes.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:35:15
May 19 2018 11:31 GMT
#68
And now he goes to farm in the only black part of the map alone
XD

Yeah I'll go back to watching Miracle jugg

At least I learned about the denies thx archeon

EDIT: he doesn't even farm with manta Illusions to send them down the lane like 99% sure Miracle does that

AAAAAND feeds again lol
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:35:19
May 19 2018 11:34 GMT
#69
Np

@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs.
Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first.
But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:38 GMT
#70
On May 19 2018 20:34 Archeon wrote:
Np

@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs.
Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first.
But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over.

Jugg's there for the gyro solely
nobody to kill Dusa
They keep dooming him for nothing
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 19 2018 11:50 GMT
#71
Jugg feels like a worse DK these days. He's a hero that needs to take down towers early to get ahead, but he's shittier than DK in brute forcing towers if laning phase is bad. Probably more suited to 3-1-1 and 4p1 setup.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 19 2018 12:22 GMT
#72
paparazi has been terrible in this series
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 12:35 GMT
#73
VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 12:46 GMT
#74
On May 19 2018 21:35 Nocticate wrote:
VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.


VG should be stronger then this but Paparazi has an off day.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 12:52 GMT
#75
imagine the season would be longer and VGJ.S would be the NA team that gets the direct invites
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 19 2018 12:55 GMT
#76
wow lol guess og didn’t have the right support system to enable reso lol
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 19 2018 12:56 GMT
#77
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 19 2018 12:57 GMT
#78
lgd va vgj is gonna be good
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 12:58 GMT
#79
On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote:
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.


Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
May 19 2018 13:04 GMT
#80
On May 19 2018 21:58 maze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote:
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.


Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.


I have 2 internet lines at home. Cant imagine A top Dota team doesnt. this should never happen :D.
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