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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
Poll: Mineski vs NewbeeNewbee Win (5) 56% Mineski Win (4) 44% 9 total votes Your vote: Mineski vs Newbee (Vote): Mineski Win (Vote): Newbee Win
Poll: Team Secret vs PSG.LGD GamingPSG.LGD Gaming Win (7) 78% Team Secret Win (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Team Secret vs PSG.LGD Gaming (Vote): Team Secret Win (Vote): PSG.LGD Gaming Win
Poll: Vici Gaming vs Vici Gaming StormVici Gaming Storm (5) 71% Vici Gaming Win (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Vici Gaming vs Vici Gaming Storm (Vote): Vici Gaming Win (Vote): Vici Gaming Storm
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
really excited to see how VG and VG.s fare. LGD has been looking weak and i’m hoping VG can be another strong chinese contender. newbee and secret are already as good as out in my opinion.
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And game 1 Meepo, haha.
What is this tournament?
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Chinese team playing Wisp?
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That ember cleaving through lol
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I don't understand why Mineski pick Meepo again. Leshrac or timbersaw would be better.
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I really hope Mineski can win this series and get some points
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bb mski
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did Sansheng shape up Newbee? Or Mineski just playing bad?
Maybe both lel
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Mski farm were so bad and Newbee itemised perfectly for that game. Even if they killed Death Prophet right there, i don't think they won the game.
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Somehow, Newbee needs iG to throw several times, and they've run it all the way back for a Top 4 placing.
What a strange tournament.
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Newbee is on a good form again eh ?
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Ame continues to be a retard at times.
XNova most mechanically skilled pos5 currently?
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No diffusal on pl because sd?
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Diffusal is great value on PL but a bit overrated at times. Getting other stats items that also boost his hp fits the hero's power curve better, especially against a lineup with many aoe spells.
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That draft was countered by a simple position 5 Oracle so HARD... OMFG
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If my predictions keep going, VGJ.S is doing it today!
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Secret's performance has been dropping lately. They seems to lose a lot against high skilled teams.
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Secrets draft doesn't strike me as a comeback draft. Imo LGD will just snowball from here on with no real possibility for secret to do anything.
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You know chinese year TI is real when they finally start playing wisp after 5 years of stubbornness of not playing it.
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On May 19 2018 15:42 babysimba wrote: You know chinese year TI is real when they finally start playing wisp after 5 years of stubbornness of not playing it.
One might argue because they made Wisp easier to play, but it's nice to finally see.
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these games have been kinda boring, telegraphed results and sluggish pace
e: what is this revisionism about china not playing wisp, they played it as much as anyone since 2014 whenever it was meta. mmy's wisp was easily the best in the world when DK was around
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Since that Kunkka comeback against Lone Druid they can't run this draft. It can be played by Yapzor or MidOne, it just seems useless. I mean WD and Io were HEALING their cores while Secret were dropping everything on them...
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That was funny to watch lgd lineup get hit by the entire combo but io+WD+all the defensive items kept them all alive
On May 19 2018 15:11 crocshark wrote: Secret's performance has been dropping lately. They seems to lose a lot against high skilled teams. Hard to blame them a lot of teams in the past few months are figuring out their stride
There is no favorite lately. The entire scene is extremely competitive
Secret is still so far the same(unlike newbee who clearly dropped quality of play) but other teams are just matching and playing better than them
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Chalice reminds me of the prime kaipi of the past: extremely versatile, so you can't outban him; critical timings and rotations; perfect item choices and so on. Maybe-fy are just running clinics at that point, but Chalice is clearly the best offlaner in the entire world at the moment.
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Meta change back from pos4 24/7 solo roam to the old supporting playstyle before that which is more static laning but with very efficient rotations at times. No surprise chinese teams start taking over.
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Newbee should provide a bigger challenge for my boys. If Storm drops down Vici to LB, LGD has all the chances to go straight from a Bo1 tight elimination game to the ultimate challenger in the Bo5 grand finals at home soil whcih is a great story to behold
How long for the next game?
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On May 19 2018 16:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Chalice reminds me of the prime kaipi of the past: extremely versatile, so you can't outban him; critical timings and rotations; perfect item choices and so on. Maybe-fy are just running clinics at that point, but Chalice is clearly the best offlaner in the entire world at the moment. hes also the best thrower of all the offlaners
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So no more games for another hour?
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This could actually be scary for LGD I think, Newbee when in form, was the wall after all
But I guess they beat Mineski, which can be a bit hit or miss, but well see
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On May 19 2018 16:56 DavoS wrote: So no more games for another hour?
Draft is live.
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sad for secret
tuned in late, missed the action
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On May 19 2018 17:03 550 wrote: sad for secret tuned in late, missed the action It was a pretty one sided affair
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This Ame gyro looks more and more like an auto-ban
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But hey! We can say definitively now that group B is better than group A! Yeah! Go be sad, group A teams!
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On May 19 2018 17:44 M.S.Bismarck wrote: But hey! We can say definitively now that group B is better than group A! Yeah! Go be sad, group A teams!
Were people actually doubting that? O_o
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These comic animations about the players are so weird, the one about Resolution was so strange haha
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Tower deny is starting to trigger me a bit...
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holy shit that Luna hiding behind a cliff
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not much to say about the game. Newbee don't seem to make any mistake to let LGD come back. And LGD just seems very limited with their possibilites to do anything.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
that aegis expire. holy shit lgd
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On May 19 2018 18:52 ShiaoPi wrote: that aegis expire. holy shit lgd I wanted to rewind ingame but dota crashed to make sure but it at least sounded like it was 1 seconds at most after it expired.
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hoooly shit ... can Newbee catch a break from getting the tag "worst rosh taking team"? unreal ...
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Oh Newbee, after all this effort you go and take a Roshan fight like that.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
and suddenly everything just evaporates like that for newbee.
Nevermind, LGD reclaimed the idiot ball just now
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is this a new record? luna had rapier for maybe 3seconds before losing it xD
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FY on that Naga... he single-handedly turned around the game with those songs in the end.
LGD can still make it back to back major wins. WP
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
really excited for this match. no clue who's gonna take it, or indeed this entire tournament.
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
this is maybe the first cast i've seen since the groups that didn't have kyle. excited for a little more positivity fr. worried that doom and bane are both individually way too powerful for VG.s to deal with
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Doom, Bane, Tide - team of bullies... Ez lanes.
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Holy shit! Storm is such a fun team to watch
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BF jugg and ember cant do anything against NS. VG needs to stop the bleeding during nighttime.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm watching Paparazzi first person rofl how do you not spin vs the root creep xDDD
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Eh I wanted to learn a good jugg But paparazzi doesn't have his day
EDIT: can anyone tell me why paparazi isn't denying almost at all? The levels are prety important Is that just cause of cs efficiency?
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Maybe they fixed The games, so Chinese bookies get huge profits :D
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roflmao the Paparazzi burns by the casters.
@denies Most core players stop denying after the laning stage to max their time killing creeps. Also generally if the map is open it's more worthwhile to have the waves always pushing as hard as possibly for vision and tower damage.
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Yeah I also don't get the battlefury build Aren't they just smoked lategame? If he has manta diffusal thet can pressure dusa and the whole team early
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
wow, this is really great play by VG.S. in groups I kinda dismissed them as a typical NA stack that was getting lucky but they're really showing consistently great drafting and execution. they let through bane and doom but VG haven't really accrued the early and midgame advantage that we've been seeing from those heroes.
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And now he goes to farm in the only black part of the map alone XD
Yeah I'll go back to watching Miracle jugg
At least I learned about the denies thx archeon
EDIT: he doesn't even farm with manta Illusions to send them down the lane like 99% sure Miracle does that
AAAAAND feeds again lol
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Np
@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs. Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first. But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over.
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On May 19 2018 20:34 Archeon wrote: Np
@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs. Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first. But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over. Jugg's there for the gyro solely nobody to kill Dusa They keep dooming him for nothing
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Jugg feels like a worse DK these days. He's a hero that needs to take down towers early to get ahead, but he's shittier than DK in brute forcing towers if laning phase is bad. Probably more suited to 3-1-1 and 4p1 setup.
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paparazi has been terrible in this series
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.
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On May 19 2018 21:35 Nocticate wrote: VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.
VG should be stronger then this but Paparazi has an off day.
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imagine the season would be longer and VGJ.S would be the NA team that gets the direct invites
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wow lol guess og didn’t have the right support system to enable reso lol
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Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.
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lgd va vgj is gonna be good
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On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote: Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.
Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.
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On May 19 2018 21:58 maze. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote: Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers. Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.
I have 2 internet lines at home. Cant imagine A top Dota team doesnt. this should never happen :D.
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I can't believe Io has almost 80% winrate in this tournament. Over 60% in 5k+ games as well. The hero feels inherintly broken :/
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I cannot believe an NA team, especially one with Sneyking, is dominating this hard, but I'm glad, especially since MSS is shining
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I want to see the showdown between Thunder and Storm at the Super Major.
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Imagine if VGS doesn't make it to TI....
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