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[MDL] 2018 Changsha Major - Playoffs Day 3

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
May 19 2018 00:20 GMT
#1

MDL


Saturday, May 19 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Mars Dota 2 League/Changsha Major/2018

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BTS

Format

  • Ten team Double Elimination
  • First round of the Lower Bracket is Bo1
  • All other matches are Bo3
  • Bo5 Grand Finals



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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
May 19 2018 00:20 GMT
#2
Poll: Mineski vs Newbee

Newbee Win (5)
 
56%

Mineski Win (4)
 
44%

9 total votes

Your vote: Mineski vs Newbee

(Vote): Mineski Win
(Vote): Newbee Win


Poll: Team Secret vs PSG.LGD Gaming

PSG.LGD Gaming Win (7)
 
78%

Team Secret Win (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Team Secret vs PSG.LGD Gaming

(Vote): Team Secret Win
(Vote): PSG.LGD Gaming Win


Poll: Vici Gaming vs Vici Gaming Storm

Vici Gaming Storm (5)
 
71%

Vici Gaming Win (2)
 
29%

7 total votes

Your vote: Vici Gaming vs Vici Gaming Storm

(Vote): Vici Gaming Win
(Vote): Vici Gaming Storm

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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 01:35 GMT
#3
really excited to see how VG and VG.s fare. LGD has been looking weak and i’m hoping VG can be another strong chinese contender. newbee and secret are already as good as out in my opinion.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 19 2018 02:32 GMT
#4
And game 1 Meepo, haha.

What is this tournament?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
May 19 2018 02:40 GMT
#5
Chinese team playing Wisp?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4544 Posts
May 19 2018 02:59 GMT
#6
That ember cleaving through lol
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
May 19 2018 03:02 GMT
#7
I don't understand why Mineski pick Meepo again. Leshrac or timbersaw would be better.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 19 2018 03:47 GMT
#8
I really hope Mineski can win this series and get some points
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
May 19 2018 03:54 GMT
#9
bad drafts from mineski
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4544 Posts
May 19 2018 04:12 GMT
#10
bb mski
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
May 19 2018 04:13 GMT
#11
did Sansheng shape up Newbee? Or Mineski just playing bad?

Maybe both lel
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
May 19 2018 04:15 GMT
#12
Mski farm were so bad and Newbee itemised perfectly for that game. Even if they killed Death Prophet right there, i don't think they won the game.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 19 2018 04:20 GMT
#13
Somehow, Newbee needs iG to throw several times, and they've run it all the way back for a Top 4 placing.

What a strange tournament.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44094 Posts
May 19 2018 05:18 GMT
#14
Newbee is on a good form again eh ?
this is a quote
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 05:49:24
May 19 2018 05:47 GMT
#15
Ame continues to be a retard at times.

XNova most mechanically skilled pos5 currently?
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 05:49 GMT
#16
No diffusal on pl because sd?
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 19 2018 06:00 GMT
#17
Diffusal is great value on PL but a bit overrated at times. Getting other stats items that also boost his hp fits the hero's power curve better, especially against a lineup with many aoe spells.
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 19 2018 06:02 GMT
#18
That draft was countered by a simple position 5 Oracle so HARD... OMFG
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 06:08 GMT
#19
If my predictions keep going, VGJ.S is doing it today!
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
May 19 2018 06:11 GMT
#20
Secret's performance has been dropping lately. They seems to lose a lot against high skilled teams.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 06:40 GMT
#21
Secrets draft doesn't strike me as a comeback draft. Imo LGD will just snowball from here on with no real possibility for secret to do anything.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 06:46:28
May 19 2018 06:42 GMT
#22
You know chinese year TI is real when they finally start playing wisp after 5 years of stubbornness of not playing it.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 19 2018 07:09 GMT
#23
On May 19 2018 15:42 babysimba wrote:
You know chinese year TI is real when they finally start playing wisp after 5 years of stubbornness of not playing it.


One might argue because they made Wisp easier to play, but it's nice to finally see.
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 07:12:46
May 19 2018 07:11 GMT
#24
these games have been kinda boring, telegraphed results and sluggish pace

e: what is this revisionism about china not playing wisp, they played it as much as anyone since 2014 whenever it was meta. mmy's wisp was easily the best in the world when DK was around
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 19 2018 07:13 GMT
#25
Since that Kunkka comeback against Lone Druid they can't run this draft. It can be played by Yapzor or MidOne, it just seems useless. I mean WD and Io were HEALING their cores while Secret were dropping everything on them...
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44094 Posts
May 19 2018 07:15 GMT
#26
That was funny to watch lgd lineup get hit by the entire combo but io+WD+all the defensive items kept them all alive

On May 19 2018 15:11 crocshark wrote:
Secret's performance has been dropping lately. They seems to lose a lot against high skilled teams.

Hard to blame them a lot of teams in the past few months are figuring out their stride

There is no favorite lately. The entire scene is extremely competitive

Secret is still so far the same(unlike newbee who clearly dropped quality of play) but other teams are just matching and playing better than them
this is a quote
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 07:27:44
May 19 2018 07:25 GMT
#27
Chalice reminds me of the prime kaipi of the past: extremely versatile, so you can't outban him; critical timings and rotations; perfect item choices and so on. Maybe-fy are just running clinics at that point, but Chalice is clearly the best offlaner in the entire world at the moment.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 07:27:42
May 19 2018 07:26 GMT
#28
Meta change back from pos4 24/7 solo roam to the old supporting playstyle before that which is more static laning but with very efficient rotations at times. No surprise chinese teams start taking over.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 07:33:44
May 19 2018 07:30 GMT
#29
Newbee should provide a bigger challenge for my boys. If Storm drops down Vici to LB, LGD has all the chances to go straight from a Bo1 tight elimination game to the ultimate challenger in the Bo5 grand finals at home soil whcih is a great story to behold

How long for the next game?
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 19 2018 07:40 GMT
#30
On May 19 2018 16:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Chalice reminds me of the prime kaipi of the past: extremely versatile, so you can't outban him; critical timings and rotations; perfect item choices and so on. Maybe-fy are just running clinics at that point, but Chalice is clearly the best offlaner in the entire world at the moment.

hes also the best thrower of all the offlaners
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 19 2018 07:56 GMT
#31
So no more games for another hour?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Chillander
Profile Joined September 2017
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 07:59:51
May 19 2018 07:57 GMT
#32
This could actually be scary for LGD I think, Newbee when in form, was the wall after all

But I guess they beat Mineski, which can be a bit hit or miss, but well see
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 08:02 GMT
#33
On May 19 2018 16:56 DavoS wrote:
So no more games for another hour?


Draft is live.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
550
Profile Joined April 2018
418 Posts
May 19 2018 08:03 GMT
#34
sad for secret

tuned in late, missed the action
Chillander
Profile Joined September 2017
219 Posts
May 19 2018 08:16 GMT
#35
What in the world, NB ?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
May 19 2018 08:18 GMT
#36
On May 19 2018 17:03 550 wrote:
sad for secret

tuned in late, missed the action

It was a pretty one sided affair
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 08:25 GMT
#37
This Ame gyro looks more and more like an auto-ban
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 19 2018 08:44 GMT
#38
But hey! We can say definitively now that group B is better than group A! Yeah! Go be sad, group A teams!
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 19 2018 08:55 GMT
#39
On May 19 2018 17:44 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
But hey! We can say definitively now that group B is better than group A! Yeah! Go be sad, group A teams!


Were people actually doubting that? O_o
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Chillander
Profile Joined September 2017
219 Posts
May 19 2018 08:58 GMT
#40
These comic animations about the players are so weird, the one about Resolution was so strange haha
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
May 19 2018 09:25 GMT
#41
Tower deny is starting to trigger me a bit...
550
Profile Joined April 2018
418 Posts
May 19 2018 09:38 GMT
#42
holy shit that Luna hiding behind a cliff
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 09:43 GMT
#43
not much to say about the game. Newbee don't seem to make any mistake to let LGD come back. And LGD just seems very limited with their possibilites to do anything.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 19 2018 09:52 GMT
#44
that aegis expire. holy shit lgd
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 09:55 GMT
#45
On May 19 2018 18:52 ShiaoPi wrote:
that aegis expire. holy shit lgd

I wanted to rewind ingame but dota crashed to make sure but it at least sounded like it was 1 seconds at most after it expired.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 09:57 GMT
#46
hoooly shit ... can Newbee catch a break from getting the tag "worst rosh taking team"? unreal ...
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 19 2018 09:57 GMT
#47
Oh Newbee, after all this effort you go and take a Roshan fight like that.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 10:00:23
May 19 2018 09:58 GMT
#48
and suddenly everything just evaporates like that for newbee.

Nevermind, LGD reclaimed the idiot ball just now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 19 2018 10:00 GMT
#49
amEE
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 19 2018 10:00 GMT
#50
Ame wat.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 19 2018 10:00 GMT
#51
and a rapier lul
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 19 2018 10:01 GMT
#52
kunkka is a hero
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 19 2018 10:01 GMT
#53
fucking kunkka xD
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
May 19 2018 10:03 GMT
#54
rofl kunkka
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 10:03 GMT
#55
is this a new record? luna had rapier for maybe 3seconds before losing it xD
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 19 2018 10:07 GMT
#56
FY on that Naga... he single-handedly turned around the game with those songs in the end.

LGD can still make it back to back major wins. WP
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 10:51 GMT
#57
really excited for this match. no clue who's gonna take it, or indeed this entire tournament.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 10:58 GMT
#58
this is maybe the first cast i've seen since the groups that didn't have kyle. excited for a little more positivity fr.
worried that doom and bane are both individually way too powerful for VG.s to deal with
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
May 19 2018 11:10 GMT
#59
Doom, Bane, Tide - team of bullies... Ez lanes.
Chillander
Profile Joined September 2017
219 Posts
May 19 2018 11:15 GMT
#60
Holy shit! Storm is such a fun team to watch
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 11:19 GMT
#61
BF jugg and ember cant do anything against NS. VG needs to stop the bleeding during nighttime.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:19 GMT
#62
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm watching Paparazzi first person
rofl
how do you not spin vs the root creep xDDD
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:25:18
May 19 2018 11:20 GMT
#63
Eh I wanted to learn a good jugg
But paparazzi doesn't have his day


EDIT: can anyone tell me why paparazi isn't denying almost at all?
The levels are prety important
Is that just cause of cs efficiency?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
May 19 2018 11:27 GMT
#64
Maybe they fixed The games, so Chinese bookies get huge profits :D
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:29:13
May 19 2018 11:27 GMT
#65
roflmao the Paparazzi burns by the casters.

@denies Most core players stop denying after the laning stage to max their time killing creeps. Also generally if the map is open it's more worthwhile to have the waves always pushing as hard as possibly for vision and tower damage.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:28 GMT
#66
Yeah I also don't get the battlefury build
Aren't they just smoked lategame?
If he has manta diffusal thet can pressure dusa and the whole team early
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 11:29 GMT
#67
wow, this is really great play by VG.S. in groups I kinda dismissed them as a typical NA stack that was getting lucky but they're really showing consistently great drafting and execution. they let through bane and doom but VG haven't really accrued the early and midgame advantage that we've been seeing from those heroes.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:35:15
May 19 2018 11:31 GMT
#68
And now he goes to farm in the only black part of the map alone
XD

Yeah I'll go back to watching Miracle jugg

At least I learned about the denies thx archeon

EDIT: he doesn't even farm with manta Illusions to send them down the lane like 99% sure Miracle does that

AAAAAND feeds again lol
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 11:35:19
May 19 2018 11:34 GMT
#69
Np

@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs.
Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first.
But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 19 2018 11:38 GMT
#70
On May 19 2018 20:34 Archeon wrote:
Np

@draft: Imo if they ravage, doom the eni and focus the gyro down they can win late fights, especially with bkbs before dis aghs.
Contrary to the casters I believe that a farmed manta diffu jugg can bring down a duza, but they have to kill the gyro first.
But that's an ideal scenario and this game is pretty much over.

Jugg's there for the gyro solely
nobody to kill Dusa
They keep dooming him for nothing
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 19 2018 11:50 GMT
#71
Jugg feels like a worse DK these days. He's a hero that needs to take down towers early to get ahead, but he's shittier than DK in brute forcing towers if laning phase is bad. Probably more suited to 3-1-1 and 4p1 setup.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 19 2018 12:22 GMT
#72
paparazi has been terrible in this series
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 19 2018 12:35 GMT
#73
VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 12:46 GMT
#74
On May 19 2018 21:35 Nocticate wrote:
VG.S just has such high quality movements compared to VG. I think storm could really take this whole tournament.


VG should be stronger then this but Paparazi has an off day.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 19 2018 12:52 GMT
#75
imagine the season would be longer and VGJ.S would be the NA team that gets the direct invites
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 19 2018 12:55 GMT
#76
wow lol guess og didn’t have the right support system to enable reso lol
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 19 2018 12:56 GMT
#77
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
May 19 2018 12:57 GMT
#78
lgd va vgj is gonna be good
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 19 2018 12:58 GMT
#79
On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote:
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.


Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
May 19 2018 13:04 GMT
#80
On May 19 2018 21:58 maze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2018 21:56 babysimba wrote:
Watch how the best NA team not qualify to TI because EG somehow eliminate them in NA qualifiers.


Or worse they lose in open qualifiers because they have internet issues.


I have 2 internet lines at home. Cant imagine A top Dota team doesnt. this should never happen :D.
Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
May 19 2018 13:10 GMT
#81
I can't believe Io has almost 80% winrate in this tournament. Over 60% in 5k+ games as well. The hero feels inherintly broken :/
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 19 2018 14:03 GMT
#82
NA overlords. SVGesus.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-19 16:13:45
May 19 2018 16:13 GMT
#83
I cannot believe an NA team, especially one with Sneyking, is dominating this hard, but I'm glad, especially since MSS is shining
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 19 2018 19:10 GMT
#84
I want to see the showdown between Thunder and Storm at the Super Major.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 19 2018 20:13 GMT
#85
Imagine if VGS doesn't make it to TI....
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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