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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
February 20 2018 14:41 GMT
#121
Oh dear, that wasn't good. EG keep losing to those teamfight-heavy heroes recently.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 20 2018 14:44 GMT
#122
I mean if someone first picks Gyro and there is another ban phase and you value banning WD over Chen then your a bit silly no? That was an issue but the Naga was countered enough i thought with SK/Doom but overvaluing kotl is annoying and part of the issue. They want these siege pushing strats where they can sit and siege a rax for 20 minutes whilst kotl healing the world but in what reality is that going to work.

Should have removed kotl and razor that game and swapped to an offlane doom and put cr1t on the SK.
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 20 2018 15:22 GMT
#123
Abed Tinker we won boys
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 20 2018 15:24 GMT
#124
newbee in big problems
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
February 20 2018 15:37 GMT
#125
On February 21 2018 00:24 Faruko wrote:
newbee in big problems


Newbee got absolutely destroyed.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 20 2018 15:40 GMT
#126
That was a really cleanly-executed game plan from Kinguin. It's been a while since I watched dota, so that was the first game of theirs I saw. Looks like a team with potential.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
February 20 2018 15:43 GMT
#127
On February 21 2018 00:40 Orome wrote:
That was a really cleanly-executed game plan from Kinguin. It's been a while since I watched dota, so that was the first game of theirs I saw. Looks like a team with potential.


Honestly I think Newbee played really poorly; I can't imagine any universe where Team Kinguin is legit better than Newbee
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 20 2018 15:44 GMT
#128
Shoutout to Kinguin for showing up on their home turf
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
February 20 2018 16:09 GMT
#129
DJ destroyed Navi.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
February 20 2018 16:11 GMT
#130
DJ basically afk farming and pushing with Rhasta earlier really paid off

Na'Vi not coordinated enough through the midgame imo
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 20 2018 16:11 GMT
#131
On February 21 2018 00:43 MetalMercury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:40 Orome wrote:
That was a really cleanly-executed game plan from Kinguin. It's been a while since I watched dota, so that was the first game of theirs I saw. Looks like a team with potential.


Honestly I think Newbee played really poorly; I can't imagine any universe where Team Kinguin is legit better than Newbee


Like I said, first game of theirs I saw, so I have no idea, and it's not what I meant. It's more that from the laning phase to the 'keep pressure on all lanes while dodging team fights' phase to the 'bkb, rosh and end game phase' they read Newbee super well, never once veered from their game plan and never once gave Newbee a teamfight. Just look at how miserable that panda was the entire game. A lot of teams are capable of good games but generally fewer, I think, can execute a draft with that much discipline and cohesion.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
February 20 2018 16:11 GMT
#132
i hope newbee crashes out in the first elim stage, pathetic performance
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 20 2018 16:14 GMT
#133
Navi as expected. They looked good skill wise, but they were very poor in the overall game plan.
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
February 20 2018 16:18 GMT
#134
On February 21 2018 01:14 DucK- wrote:
Navi as expected. They looked good skill wise, but they were very poor in the overall game plan.

Fnatic didn't lock particularly good either though. Wouldn't bet on them against the big dogs.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 20 2018 16:25 GMT
#135
Fnatic hasn't yet shown to be a major threat for the top placings. I don't think they've become worse with Uni or anything, it's just that there is quite a gap from where they were to beating TL or Secret in a bo3. In the NaVi game they had a few blunders but importantly they were constantly keeping the lanes out and never got caught out in a terrible position where NaVi could take rosh or threaten buildings.

With Kinguin beating Newbee, one of Fnatic and Kinguin is guaranteed to make it to the playoffs and get top6. Still need to beat one of the top teams to get to the points though
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria854 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 16:30:28
February 20 2018 16:29 GMT
#136
S4 is playing a nasty OwlRider
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
February 20 2018 16:30 GMT
#137
On February 21 2018 01:25 spudde123 wrote:
Fnatic hasn't yet shown to be a major threat for the top placings. I don't think they've become worse with Uni or anything, it's just that there is quite a gap from where they were to beating TL or Secret in a bo3. In the NaVi game they had a few blunders but importantly they were constantly keeping the lanes out and never got caught out in a terrible position where NaVi could take rosh or threaten buildings.

With Kinguin beating Newbee, one of Fnatic and Kinguin is guaranteed to make it to the playoffs and get top6. Still need to beat one of the top teams to get to the points though

That is the point though, i can't really give them credit for constantly pushing the waves if they play with Viper, Rhasta and most importantly Tinker, how is that an accomplishment?
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 20 2018 16:39 GMT
#138
Tinker is just a broken hero that is in the same league as brood. If you pick it late in draft against no counters, you will win if you execute it properly.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 20 2018 16:40 GMT
#139
OG's going to easily 2-0 Effect and Liquid should 2-0 VG
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 16:48:02
February 20 2018 16:41 GMT
#140
On February 21 2018 01:39 babysimba wrote:
Tinker is just a broken hero that is in the same league as brood. If you pick it late in draft against no counters, you will win if you execute it properly.

That's true, and on the bright side, Abed managed to get caught out a lot less than he has on previous Tinker performances in the SEA qualifiers for various tourneys
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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