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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
February 20 2018 12:59 GMT
#81
On February 20 2018 21:32 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 20:56 Vertical wrote:
this is so over
VG feed so hard

VG won xD

I need to learn not every team is Liquid
-Terran-
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
February 20 2018 13:03 GMT
#82
On February 20 2018 21:47 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 21:27 babysimba wrote:
Crush every qualifiers but can't win chinese team during CNY. EU region has no depth outside of Secret and Liquid lol.

if you talked about depth, only Chinese team have more than 2 relevant team
EU: Secret & Liquid
NA: CoL & EG
CIS: Na'VI & VP
SEA: Mineski
SA: LOLOLOLOLOL why this region exist?!?!
CN: Newbee, LGD, VG, VGJ

this is reflected in the current DPC (LGD unfortunately used sub in Bucharest)
VGJ is arguable, I put it based on the fact they won the unfortunately "irrelevant" Galaxy Battle 2, other than that they're actually sucked.

You're from SEA and honestly saying Valve shouldn't help regions?

Also what he means by depth is not good teams, like the ones you mentioned. NA has optic, immortals, vg.storm. CIS has team empire. SEA has fnatic TNC. CN has all those you mentioned and Ehome, LFY and IG.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
February 20 2018 13:05 GMT
#83
looking at the draft col should win against mineski
this is a quote
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:09:05
February 20 2018 13:08 GMT
#84
On February 20 2018 22:05 goody153 wrote:
looking at the draft col should win against mineski

Sadly, it is Col and they are terrible most of the time.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 20 2018 13:08 GMT
#85
Shrugs. Personally I don't think any hero on Col is able to stop timbersaw lol
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:21:21
February 20 2018 13:14 GMT
#86
On February 20 2018 22:03 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 21:47 Vertical wrote:
On February 20 2018 21:27 babysimba wrote:
Crush every qualifiers but can't win chinese team during CNY. EU region has no depth outside of Secret and Liquid lol.

if you talked about depth, only Chinese team have more than 2 relevant team
EU: Secret & Liquid
NA: CoL & EG
CIS: Na'VI & VP
SEA: Mineski
SA: LOLOLOLOLOL why this region exist?!?!
CN: Newbee, LGD, VG, VGJ

this is reflected in the current DPC (LGD unfortunately used sub in Bucharest)
VGJ is arguable, I put it based on the fact they won the unfortunately "irrelevant" Galaxy Battle 2, other than that they're actually sucked.

You're from SEA and honestly saying Valve shouldn't help regions?

Also what he means by depth is not good teams, like the ones you mentioned. NA has optic, immortals, vg.storm. CIS has team empire. SEA has fnatic TNC. CN has all those you mentioned and Ehome, LFY and IG.

I never favor "patronize slot", for example I never see any SEA team in the World Cup.

he's saying EU have no depth, but look at other region, beside teams already in DPC point, there's no other dominant team. and the current top 8 comfortably have all the team from all the regions (Except SA).
-Terran-
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:27:29
February 20 2018 13:14 GMT
#87
On February 20 2018 22:08 babysimba wrote:
Shrugs. Personally I don't think any hero on Col is able to stop timbersaw lol

Idk, it seems none of col heroes care about timbersaw

edit: it seems they couldn't ignore ice³
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
February 20 2018 13:23 GMT
#88
On February 20 2018 22:14 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 22:03 Pontual wrote:
On February 20 2018 21:47 Vertical wrote:
On February 20 2018 21:27 babysimba wrote:
Crush every qualifiers but can't win chinese team during CNY. EU region has no depth outside of Secret and Liquid lol.

if you talked about depth, only Chinese team have more than 2 relevant team
EU: Secret & Liquid
NA: CoL & EG
CIS: Na'VI & VP
SEA: Mineski
SA: LOLOLOLOLOL why this region exist?!?!
CN: Newbee, LGD, VG, VGJ

this is reflected in the current DPC (LGD unfortunately used sub in Bucharest)
VGJ is arguable, I put it based on the fact they won the unfortunately "irrelevant" Galaxy Battle 2, other than that they're actually sucked.

You're from SEA and honestly saying Valve shouldn't help regions?

Also what he means by depth is not good teams, like the ones you mentioned. NA has optic, immortals, vg.storm. CIS has team empire. SEA has fnatic TNC. CN has all those you mentioned and Ehome, LFY and IG.

I never favor "patronize slot", for example I never see any SEA team in the World Cup.

see your list.
NA have 2: Optic, Immortals
CIS have 1: empire
SEA have 2: Fnatic, TNC
CN have again 3: Ehome, LFY, IG

which means its true, that every region only have certain amount of good team.
each region have 1-2 Tier 1 team and 1-2 Tier 2 team, e̶x̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ ̶C̶h̶i̶n̶a̶,̶ except SA.

Edit: nevermind, EHOME shouldn't be there, they sucked


My point is: SEA was trash, Valve gave slot for them anyway, 3~4 years later SEA is a solid region. So its weird for you to criticize valve's decision to give SA a slot on stuff, even more so with the disrespective tone you chose your words.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:30:13
February 20 2018 13:29 GMT
#89
?? SEA always had a presence on dota despite some very bad period, they earned their spot/invites

SA is always shit and deserve no spot at all, let them all fight on america qualifier like it used to be
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 20 2018 13:34 GMT
#90
I feel like TA was rocking everyone in scrims yesterday, but everyone has adjusted already.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
February 20 2018 13:39 GMT
#91
The Puck-Venge combo is nasty, haha
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4359 Posts
February 20 2018 13:41 GMT
#92
iceiceice is the best timbersaw in the world and has been for a long time
Sucker for nostalgia
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
February 20 2018 13:42 GMT
#93
i'm not even gonna watch secret-infamous it's kinda obvious how that will end

eg-lgd would be interesting but i doubt eg is gonna win against lgd
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:45:37
February 20 2018 13:45 GMT
#94
On February 20 2018 22:41 DropBear wrote:
iceiceice is the best timbersaw in the world and has been for a long time

arguable

i've seen w33ha having a better performance with timber like he was juking the entire teamliquid roster in a game last year

it's on one of the highlight vods
this is a quote
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 20 2018 13:46 GMT
#95
Wouldn't count infamous out yet because they obviously outdrafted Secret this game.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4359 Posts
February 20 2018 13:46 GMT
#96
On February 20 2018 22:45 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 22:41 DropBear wrote:
iceiceice is the best timbersaw in the world and has been for a long time

arguable

i've seen w33ha having a better performance with timber like he was juking the entire teamliquid roster in a game last year

it's on one of the highlight vods

ice does it every game though, not once
Sucker for nostalgia
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:50:56
February 20 2018 13:50 GMT
#97
On February 20 2018 22:46 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 22:45 goody153 wrote:
On February 20 2018 22:41 DropBear wrote:
iceiceice is the best timbersaw in the world and has been for a long time

arguable

i've seen w33ha having a better performance with timber like he was juking the entire teamliquid roster in a game last year

it's on one of the highlight vods

ice does it every game though, not once

ice only does that when he's ahead or relatively even which alot of players could and have shown they could .. there are games ice didn't do so well when he didn't have the momentum

though i do admit ice is quite good with timber and is certainly one of the better timber players but that's like saying their is an absolute best player when it comes to SF when there's a bunch of them who could play the hero quite well
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
February 20 2018 13:52 GMT
#98
somebody bump with the eg-lgd stream link that isn't facebook cause it's just neverending buffering for me
this is a quote
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:54:56
February 20 2018 13:54 GMT
#99
Wow sumail looks very pale? Is he ok?
Mm Coach bulba looking good :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 20 2018 13:56 GMT
#100
https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ruhub - ru EG vs LGD
https://www.twitch.tv/admiralbulldog - uk Assume Bulldonger is casting it too
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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