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Teams!Fixtures & Results![[image loading]](/staff/tehh4ck3r/team_logos/kinguin.png) ![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/vp.png) Sunday, Dec 17 8:45pm GMT (GMT+00:00) ![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/fnatic.png) ![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/og.png) Monday, Dec 18 12:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Grand Finals ![[image loading]](/staff/Nixer/other/tba_white.png) CSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: Summit | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 18 2017 02:29 BigO wrote: One thing that has "always" triggered me when watching pro games with Dusa is that most throw the snake directly at the target instead of letting it bounce first for more damage. I know it may sometimes be risky to not use it on the target they wanna damage/kill, but many times they just pass down on free damage for no reason. Bouncing snake is fairly easy to dodge. Especially in laning, and you really want the hero+ranged mana steal whenever you cast it. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
On December 18 2017 03:46 WolfintheSheep wrote: Bouncing snake is fairly easy to dodge. Especially in laning, and you really want the hero+ranged mana steal whenever you cast it. Ye but when the target is disabled etc, it feels like its basically a no risk play. | ||
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maximrobi
Hungary347 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On December 18 2017 05:13 maximrobi wrote: Is BKB actually bad for you against Naga ulti? In that last fight Abed got focused while all the others were asleep. Sometimes it can be like that but in this game it was against Tiny and Invoker so I think BKB is pretty necessary. Also Fnatic wants to start fights by blinking in with DP etc, silencing and killing someone, which won't work if the Naga can always just sleep. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
This Weaver is suffering pretty hard in lane. TA is doing great though. 111 cs at 8:30 rofl | ||
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Minishield
Italy145 Posts
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Shikada
Serbia976 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
And right as I say that Reso pulls an Aui and dies to ancients as Sven and s4 dies right after to EE Fnatic hasn't really used Abed's hero at all. He is just farming alone not participating in the game, generally Medusa is great at delaying tower pushes. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
Can't watch the finals but smells like a 3-0 or 3-1 for VP. Fnatic is dangerous if they get their picks right but I think VP is more versatile and is likely to get a draft advantage in a few games at least | ||
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Whoranzone
Germany330 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 18 2017 07:20 Kuroeeah wrote: I'm not going to lie but this meta seems horrendous. I love the return to emphasizing mechanics in the laning phase, but the AoE-flash-farming-core trend is just tiring. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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VGhost
United States3615 Posts
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32742 Posts
N-nani?! | ||
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Archeon
3260 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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Archeon
3260 Posts
Biologically no idea  @Thinking: From his streams I'd say he feels the need to do more on the map. The idea is that loosing a hero is way less loss than normally bc of rubberband and if shit happens, it was a hard game anyways. But if you go extra greedy or split more to keep the map open and get away with it you start coming back. It's a similar train of though to how teams do desperation 5-man smokes. Envy just incrementally leans to higher risks the shittier the game goes. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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VGhost
United States3615 Posts
Assuming VP win. | ||
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LennX
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Archeon
3260 Posts
Also somehow Ohaijyo had less impact with refresher than last game without it. | ||
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Latham
9563 Posts
derp it says so on the screen in-between games. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 18 2017 11:06 Archeon wrote: Surprised by how easily VP dealt with PL. Agreed to Arteezy, this looked like a good PL game and he didn't really have any impact in the fights. Ramzes itemized correctly and Pasha wrecked him with Aghs + ultimate. | ||
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Archeon
3260 Posts
On December 18 2017 11:10 CosmicSpiral wrote: Ramzes itemized correctly and Pasha wrecked him with Aghs + ultimate. True, Fnatic had surprising difficulties to keep Abed alive in fights, which made the breaks really strong. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 18 2017 11:41 BigO wrote: Noone microing the spiderites back so EE doesn't kill them is so smart, idk why they didnt notice on the panel. Guess they didn't see he split the spiderlings and the spiderites. Ramzes is playing the Brood. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
Haha yeah, wrong name, guess I ain't paying attention either! :D | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On December 18 2017 12:08 peidongyang wrote: jacky lmao 2nd place curse continues Better than last place! Don't imagine Fnatic will ever win a tournament. | ||
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SatsuinoHado
Bulgaria777 Posts
On December 18 2017 12:21 FuzzyJAM wrote: Better than last place! Don't imagine Fnatic will ever win a tournament. Winning who said winning :D thats what tha last tourney they are qualified for that window mineski decided to not play serious I doubt this will happen anytime soon. Thats like empires win on the asus rog last week its great and all but thats it... Edit: forgot about that invitation to esl genting where the only team they can beat is tnc if they qualify and eg | ||
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