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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:13 M.S.Bismarck wrote: GranDGranT predicted Ig.V winning this match. He said that if VP won, he'd do something with a certain 2 liter of Mountain Dew. Give it $800? | ||
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goody153
44254 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:10 Papercappu wrote: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26432246 i knew it lol Too early to decide. IG.V is actually the only one who lost so far and they're against one of the favorites. The two chinese who played before them won their series not sure if that's sucking so the record is 2-1 in terms of series that's winning though the question if they maintain the pace throughout the tournament is another matter | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:13 goody153 wrote: Too early to decide. IG.V is actually the only one who lost so far and they're against one of the favorites. The two chinese who played before them won their series not sure if that's sucking Newbee lost too | ||
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goody153
44254 Posts
Damn it i actually forgot about newbee rofl 2-2 then but one of the loss is against a clear favorite | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
I wish he saved the stream so I could make a clip of it. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:09 Aldehyde wrote: What's he supposed to say this game? VP is dominating except for five minutes during which I didn't get the feeling he was very biased. Purge is pretty much the most biased caster out there today. His bias has only been exceeded by Tobi's love for NaVi back in the day. For instance, in this series, after a Rosh fight, VP kill 1 hero, dont get Rosh kill, but get Aegis. Purge calls that a "convincing win" for VP. In the previous series, after a Rosh fight, VG.J kill 2 heroes, kill rosh, get Aegis. Purge calls that a "slight win" for VG.J. I remember during a tournament maybe half a year ago where a Chinese team had 1 rax adv and a 30k+ gold lead against some Western team but Purge's analysis of that situation was that it was still a close game. At TI6 Finals, Purge spend an entire post-game "weatherman" segment ass kissing Saska of DC even though DC just got spanked by Wings. He always gushes heavily over Western players and teams when they win (or even lose) but doesn't ever give the same kind of credit when an Eastern team wins. VP actually didn't play THAT particularly well during game 2. It had more to do with how bad IG.V played but Purge would have you believe that VP was flawless. | ||
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uthgard
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
also I feel like TA just owns Ember straight up, so much burst. | ||
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Yurie
12079 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:24 Kipsate wrote: Ursa is one of the few that can actually beat the shit out of Omni in lane too I feel also I feel like TA just owns Ember straight up, so much burst. What actually works against TA now a days if you just consider the mid heroes? Only thing seems to be massive ganks on her or enough control in later fights that the snowball stops. | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
On April 28 2017 06:20 wuhan_clan wrote: Purge is pretty much the most biased caster out there today. His bias has only been exceeded by Tobi's love for NaVi back in the day. For instance, in this series, after a Rosh fight, VP kill 1 hero, dont get Rosh kill, but get Aegis. Purge calls that a "convincing win" for VP. In the previous series, after a Rosh fight, VG.J kill 2 heroes, kill rosh, get Aegis. Purge calls that a "slight win" for VG.J. I remember during a tournament maybe half a year ago where a Chinese team had 1 rax adv and a 30k+ gold lead against some Western team but Purge's analysis of that situation was that it was still a close game. At TI6 Finals, Purge spend an entire post-game "weatherman" segment ass kissing Saska of DC even though DC just got spanked by Wings. He always gushes heavily over Western players and teams when they win (or even lose) but doesn't ever give the same kind of credit when an Eastern team wins. VP actually didn't play THAT particularly well during game 2. It had more to do with how bad IG.V played but Purge would have you believe that VP was flawless. I can't speak to the other games but his casting in game 2 definitely didn't give me the impression that VP were flawless. I'll keep your and Goody153's comments in mind for the next time I hear his casting, though. Haven't really reflected on it previously. Something that happens very often though is that casters (pretty much all of them) talk about the team in the lead as if they're the best ever until they lose a fight. Then it's the other team's turn to get all the praise until they lose a fight. | ||
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calh
537 Posts
On April 28 2017 10:07 Aldehyde wrote: I can't speak to the other games but his casting in game 2 definitely didn't give me the impression that VP were flawless. I'll keep your and Goody153's comments in mind for the next time I hear his casting, though. Haven't really reflected on it previously. Something that happens very often though is that casters (pretty much all of them) talk about the team in the lead as if they're the best ever until they lose a fight. Then it's the other team's turn to get all the praise until they lose a fight. IMO the problem with Purge is not bias. Every caster is biased to some extent, and when it's East vs West it's quite understandable. Purge's problem is that his bias clouds his judgement of the game state. For example, when a caster's favorite team is losing, most of them would say something like "now that they're behind, they need to do this and that to catch up". With Purge, it's often "they're still doing great, getting this one kill while the enemy's 3 kills actually don't amount to much". Or maybe he just can't read the game at all. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 28 2017 09:21 Yurie wrote: What actually works against TA now a days if you just consider the mid heroes? Only thing seems to be massive ganks on her or enough control in later fights that the snowball stops. silencer lowkey counter, glaives removes 2 instances per hit and arcane curse removes lots of instances by itself but silencer's later game isnt nearly as reliably impactful as TAs so i feel like if youre going to do that counter you have to have at least 1 other winning lane and also snowball potential | ||
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