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lolnoty
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DucK-
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Thetwinmasters
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On July 23 2016 02:36 DucK- wrote: Would love to blame Mushit, but Fnatic supports played meh imo. Maybe its the draft. Is he still drafting? Considering mushi leaped into a batrider level 2 you can blame him | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:36 lolnoty wrote: it's a crime that they don't have DJ on a core He is one of the best supports in the scene atm..why it is a crime they don't have him on core? It's like saying it is a crime that zai is not on core. About the game ,lmao but fnatic warding was atrocious and smoking too..90% of their smokes were detected ..they are looking worse than ever going into TI..unless something changes ,bottom 4 is waiting for them | ||
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Nyan
Germany1931 Posts
zai should have taken bulbas offlane and secret without a change | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:40 Kamisamanachi wrote: He is one of the best supports in the scene atm..why it is a crime they don't have him on core? It's like saying it is a crime that zai is not on core. About the game ,lmao but fnatic warding was atrocious and smoking too..90% of their smokes were detected ..they are looking worse than ever going into TI..unless something changes ,bottom 4 is waiting for them he's a better core than every player on that team and putting him on a dazzle is underutilizing his talents just because Mushi's ego forces him to kick players so he can play mid/carry | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:42 lolnoty wrote: he's a better core than every player on that team and putting him on a dazzle is underutilizing his talents just because Mushi's ego forces him to kick players so he can play mid/carry How do u know he is better core than every core on team ? He hasnt played core since a year in competitive ..and u mean to say mushi, a mid/ carry player shouldnt play mid because u think dj is better core which is unproven . I don't like mushi playing core that much too ,but dj better core thing is simply a guess . The bad thing fnatic is doing is putting dj on defensive support and not playmakers where he shines most at.they give midone a right clicker with no playmaking potential ,which is also a big mistake .. | ||
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uriel-
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:45 uriel- wrote: 343 drafted for game 1. That's why that looked like standard draft and not some random thing | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:42 lolnoty wrote: he's a better core than every player on that team and putting him on a dazzle is underutilizing his talents just because Mushi's ego forces him to kick players so he can play mid/carry None of the 3 plays a good #4. That is an issue. I think the problem was him on such a defensive support. Fnatic really need him to make plays. He single handily ganked navi in game 1 yesterday with nyx. I don't like Mushi for what he did to net, but he is fairly strong as #1/#2. I do think midone is a better mid though, and Mushi should just play carry. Midone can play a tempo controlling or farming mid style, whereas Mushi hasn't been that good lately at the former. | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:45 Kamisamanachi wrote: How do u know he is better core than every core on team ? He hasnt played core since a year in competitive ..and u mean to say mushi, a mid/ carry player shouldnt play mid because u think dj is better core which is unproven . I don't like mushi playing core that much too ,but dj better core thing is simply a guess because I watched games when DJ was a core and evaluated it on that.. ? what are you even talking about with it's a guess that's like saying people were guessing Fear was a good carry during his breaks switching roles in 2012/2013, or his injury in 2014. DJ has the important intangibles like decision making under pressure, consistency in all aspects. things mushi certainly does not have evidenced by his entire career | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:48 DucK- wrote: None of the 3 plays a good #4. That is an issue. I think the problem was him on such a defensive support. Fnatic really need him to make plays. He single handily ganked navi in game 1 yesterday with nyx. I don't like Mushi for what he did to net, but he is fairly strong as #1/#2. I do think midone is a better mid though, and Mushi should just play carry. Midone can play a tempo controlling or farming mid style, whereas Mushi hasn't been that good lately at the former. Midone should be mid, ohaiyo should be kicked, mushi carry, dj offlane, get a real support to fill the roles. Mushi kicking net was (one of) the worst combination of players/positions. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:48 lolnoty wrote: because I watched games when DJ was a core and evaluated it on that.. ? what are you even talking about with it's a guess that's like saying people were guessing Fear was a good carry during his breaks switching roles in 2012/2013, or his injury in 2014. DJ has the important intangibles like decision making under pressure, consistency in all aspects. things mushi certainly does not have evidenced by his entire career And why would dj play core and make mushi play support? I am not getting your logic ..nothing is proven and the team is also different | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:48 DucK- wrote: None of the 3 plays a good #4. That is an issue. I think the problem was him on such a defensive support. Fnatic really need him to make plays. He single handily ganked navi in game 1 yesterday with nyx. I don't like Mushi for what he did to net, but he is fairly strong as #1/#2. I do think midone is a better mid though, and Mushi should just play carry. Midone can play a tempo controlling or farming mid style, whereas Mushi hasn't been that good lately at the former. This is the best I can think for them at this point..just let midone play mid and mushi play carryb..put dj on intitating supports like earthshaker ,enigma..343 on hard support and ohaiyo on initiators Damn..gonna miss navi games..have to sleep | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 23 2016 02:53 Kamisamanachi wrote: And why would dj play core and make mushi play support? I am not getting your logic ..nothing is proven and the team is also different Honestly mushi shouldn't play anything, the guy has been an unreliable choker since the start of 2014 (when DK started relieving him of responsibilities and demoting his mid hero pool to easy as possible). His biggest quality is whipping SEA players' asses into ACTUALLY praciticing/scrimming like a real team rather than in game abilities. Put mushi in EU or China and the list of players that play the position better is 10+ people long. | ||
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Indonesia4317 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
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