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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 22 2016 18:59 GMT
#61
ohaiyo's crush was...

maybe he had a stroke?
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 22 2016 19:01 GMT
#62
Fnatic gives you hope only to take it away.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 22 2016 19:02 GMT
#63
Ame - whataplayer.

Think Fnatic's draft is still good enough to win.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 19:05:58
July 22 2016 19:05 GMT
#64
I think Mushi is going Midas? Top kek.

Edit: Nope. Thank goodness.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
July 22 2016 19:18 GMT
#65
Wtf is this draft by CDEC? They have no damage apart from star fall. Having all the sick ultis is cool and all but if you can't kill anyone during them you are in trouble.


"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 22 2016 19:19 GMT
#66
Ame is trying to throw this hard with those missed arrows.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 22 2016 19:19 GMT
#67
I'm probably out of the loop but i thought fairly high of midone as a player more so than mushi as of recently, so why exactly did they swap positions?
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
July 22 2016 19:23 GMT
#68
On July 23 2016 04:19 Kuroeeah wrote:
I'm probably out of the loop but i thought fairly high of midone as a player more so than mushi as of recently, so why exactly did they swap positions?

probably because of the heros.They think mushi playes a better alc so they gave him the midle lane.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
July 22 2016 19:27 GMT
#69
to each their own but damn I really dislike maut as a caster
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 19:31:41
July 22 2016 19:28 GMT
#70
This game needs an Earthshaker on CDEC's side. All those Illusions+Chen, would be glorious.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 19:41:46
July 22 2016 19:36 GMT
#71
The Chinese teams outside of the three or four best teams are pretty bad; you can see the obvious difference in decision making, pick, and skill.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 22 2016 19:37 GMT
#72
i really hate maut commentating
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 22 2016 19:37 GMT
#73
On July 23 2016 04:23 zolasell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 04:19 Kuroeeah wrote:
I'm probably out of the loop but i thought fairly high of midone as a player more so than mushi as of recently, so why exactly did they swap positions?

probably because of the heros.They think mushi playes a better alc so they gave him the midle lane.


Probably more like midone plays a better tb
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 22 2016 19:38 GMT
#74
can they play col vs friends off stream

it's just a cockblock in front of navi vs eg and w33 vs puppey
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 22 2016 19:43 GMT
#75
On July 23 2016 04:36 Azarkon wrote:
The second level of Chinese teams are pretty bad; you can see the obvious difference in decision making, pick, and skill.

CDEC.Y have played considerably better in the past. Their drafts are pretty questionable and they're not all that consistent.

I'm also curious as to what you count as T2. CDEC.Y are probably about the 8th (IDK, off the top of my head) best team in the region, which puts them on par for maybe... Ad Finem or something in Europe. Which doesn't seem T2 to me.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 22 2016 19:46 GMT
#76
if they're on par with ad finem, whom i consider t2, that would also make cdec.y t2
in this case i think it's true with the bigger picture in mind.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 19:48:17
July 22 2016 19:47 GMT
#77
On July 23 2016 04:46 nanaoei wrote:
if they're on par with ad finem, whom i consider t2, that would also make cdec.y t2
in this case i think it's true with the bigger picture in mind.

I don't think he meant their play is on par with Ad Finem, but that their position in their play area is

that is to say, CDEC.Y is 8th best chinese team and Ad Finem is 8th best European team
rip
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 19:53:59
July 22 2016 19:52 GMT
#78
Fnatic need to replace Mushi.
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MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
July 22 2016 19:53 GMT
#79
On July 23 2016 04:47 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 04:46 nanaoei wrote:
if they're on par with ad finem, whom i consider t2, that would also make cdec.y t2
in this case i think it's true with the bigger picture in mind.

I don't think he meant their play is on par with Ad Finem, but that their position in their play area is

that is to say, CDEC.Y is 8th best chinese team and Ad Finem is 8th best European team


I think this is a kinda false, I would put CDEC.Y as the fifth best team in China, behind LGD / Newbee / VG.R / Wings. Even though they didn't make the wildcard in the main qualifiers for TI, they had a uncharacteristically bad tournament. If you look at the more recent Chinese qualifiers and tournaments, they are regularly losing to teams like LGD and Newbee but sometimes beating VG.R and Wings.

I'd honestly say that CDEC.Y is more like an Alliance of their region than an Ad Finem.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 22 2016 20:00 GMT
#80
On July 23 2016 04:53 MetalMercury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 04:47 TomatoBisque wrote:
On July 23 2016 04:46 nanaoei wrote:
if they're on par with ad finem, whom i consider t2, that would also make cdec.y t2
in this case i think it's true with the bigger picture in mind.

I don't think he meant their play is on par with Ad Finem, but that their position in their play area is

that is to say, CDEC.Y is 8th best chinese team and Ad Finem is 8th best European team


I think this is a kinda false, I would put CDEC.Y as the fifth best team in China, behind LGD / Newbee / VG.R / Wings. Even though they didn't make the wildcard in the main qualifiers for TI, they had a uncharacteristically bad tournament. If you look at the more recent Chinese qualifiers and tournaments, they are regularly losing to teams like LGD and Newbee but sometimes beating VG.R and Wings.

I'd honestly say that CDEC.Y is more like an Alliance of their region than an Ad Finem.

What? They won a TI? They won some tournaments this year? The Chinese scene is rather similar to EU atm, 5 to 8 or 9 is the same thing so any eu T2 team is somewhat comparable to CDEC.Y but not alliance.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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