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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On June 08 2016 00:33 Kabras wrote: the reward is sitting in ur penthouse in turkey watching netflix with the cs go grill squad. i'd take that over winning dota any day honestly. Secret ownership system is literally the most moronic self-gratification I've ever seen. 0 fiscal responsibility. :/ | ||
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takahiro322
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
On June 08 2016 00:29 Dracolich70 wrote: Yes, but if DC continues, they seem like they are above EG. Of course we have seen that Valve are pushing towards having two NA teams, just like they are pushing for 2 SEA teams. EG have never played all that many games. But since they didn't decide this roster per se, I feel they should play more. Complexity is still around at Manila too! | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On June 08 2016 00:15 Kipsate wrote: Newbee got an invite after crushing for 3/4 months and then flailing about uselessly afterwards, there is no precedent for it beause that year didn't have majors. Newbee also kept 3/5th of their players that year just like EG. i'd imagine they'd still invite EG. newbee was a bit different than secret, not eg though, because they still had somewhat reasonable results for a 4th chinese invite. they had some top 4 placements in the chinese qualifiers for various events and neither cdec, hgt nor ehome was consistently better than them. so in the end there were 4 teams who all had similar results and one of them happend to be really good 8 months ago. easy choice then. depends on how the next 6 weeks play out, if EG gets at least some results, they are probably gonna get invited. secret however needs really really good results. | ||
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weiliem
2061 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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LennX
4529 Posts
On June 08 2016 00:43 rebdomine wrote: Got back from the event. I ended up missing out on the meet and greet sessions for DC and LGD but the games were fun to watch at least. I'm jelly | ||
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mycro
Sweden1579 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
On June 08 2016 01:31 weiliem wrote: LOL!!! Both EG and Secret lost? What is happening in the world of Dota??? Burning is playing 4 position, the world of DotA has been turned upside down for a while now | ||
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Daigoro
Germany251 Posts
a) the current roster gives zero indication they actually deserve an invite (neither does EG) but many presume (me too) that b) Valve will invite both teams to TI6. The upsides: - public interest/creation of a storyline - Majors actually mean something - imo THE biggest plus: There is a formal process how to get an invite not some sort of meritology where 90% of the teams bounce in their performance up and down. Valve should not afford themselves the fickle forumposter mentality where any team player bounces from T1 to dumpster tier on a monthly basis. Last year the invites were kinda dicey, qualified teams performed great (2nd and 5/6.) and deserved - in hindsight - an invite over others. I would welcome it if the invite process was more predictable, invites are going to be more contentuous this year. Of course it is ironic that the overall (probably) best performing team gets an invite despite being horrible atm. Personally I really miss seeing way more action throughout the year, but outside of ESL and very few other events top teams are focussed exclusively on the majors now.. i think that is a big part of team secrets problems, just a handful of official matches... | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:18 Daigoro wrote: Last year the invites were kinda dicey, qualified teams performed great (2nd and 5/6.) and deserved - in hindsight - an invite over others. A qualifier team doing well has very little to do with whether they deserved an invite or not. At the time of the invites, you invite the teams that are most deserving according to your criteria. It's very possible that a team does not do much to deserve an invite, improves and wins the qualifiers, improves more and does well at the event itself. Then they will start getting invites in future events. | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:30 lolnoty wrote: idk how people are even entertaining the EG wouldn't be invited. wasn't this settled last year with Newbee? The champion team comes back. As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. Doesn't sound insane to me, zero invites would be totally okay with me. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:30 lolnoty wrote: idk how people are even entertaining the EG wouldn't be invited. wasn't this settled last year with Newbee? The champion team comes back. As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. I wonder if pro-gamers actually know of some hidden/internal points system that's not been released to the public. | ||
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:30 lolnoty wrote: idk how people are even entertaining the EG wouldn't be invited. wasn't this settled last year with Newbee? The champion team comes back. As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. Considering how badly they've both been underperforming it doesn't seem very insane at all. Consistent and good play should be rewarded for teams that are breaking into the top tier scene and if they're outperforming the old elite I don't see why they shouldn't get the invites instead. After all it's not like they're totally shut out from TI if they don't get an invite, there's just rough competition in the open qualifiers and a chance to redeem themselves in that case. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:30 lolnoty wrote: idk how people are even entertaining the EG wouldn't be invited. wasn't this settled last year with Newbee? The champion team comes back. As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. Um, de facto inviting every organization that wins a major (even ignoring roster swaps) does the exact OPPOSITE of making teams give a fuck for most of the months of the year for all winning teams. It heavily encourages them to not give a fuck after they win a major-which can be up to 9 months of the year. 12 for former TI winners (which is bad enough). This results in a lot of shitty DotA. Majors exist for players to win large sums of money (enough to encourage players to try) and promote the Valve brand on a consistent basis and provide an incentive not to roster ping pong. They're not qualifiers for TI-if they were, they'd be called qualifiers and would have actual rules to that effect. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Personally, I think now that we have 20 million dollar tournaments, it's about time to have hard and transparent rules for qualifying instead of having Valve to grace us with a list of invitees pulled out of their ass every time. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On June 08 2016 03:30 lolnoty wrote: idk how people are even entertaining the EG wouldn't be invited. wasn't this settled last year with Newbee? The champion team comes back. As for Secret, they likely get invited because Valve is very invested in a year long setup where there's always relevant tournament, explicitly because they wanted teams to give a fuck for the other 6 months of the year that weren't TI season. Major winners are going to get invited because of this. Secret not getting invited should sound insane to anyone, because they the discussion goes to why the fuck do majors exist if they don't get invited. read my post about newbee last year pls. newbee was one of the possible 4th best chinese teams, there wasnt any other team. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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