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Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 07 2016 15:15 GMT
#2441
On June 08 2016 00:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:11 Pandemona wrote:
On June 08 2016 00:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 08 2016 00:07 Pandemona wrote:
On June 08 2016 00:02 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:56 Pandemona wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:54 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I wonder how it feels to lose your invite to TI

Don't think so.
TI6 invites have to be given to the major winners and well Secret have one of those so im pretty sure they are 100% safe.


DC can get the invite instead of secret. There are technically major winners on that team.

Secret have more but it doesn't matter, EG could have changed its entire roster, lost every single game up until today and still get the TI6 invite, only way they lose theirs is if they change their squad now during roster locks.
OG - Secret - ManilaWinner - EG are confirmed for TI6 unless Valve go completely silly, or what is point in the majors after all

EG is a proper team. TS is a bunch of clowns.

Whilst they might be, still done more than most this "season" in winning a major thing which valve obviously will rank higher than an ESL or WCS crap tournament as examples.
Anyway i think they still are find for invites, will they through their invite away with another roster shuffle that is more of a possibility with Secret over EG for example but only time will tell.

Honestly, it would be even better if they got an invite. Imagine all the pain and disgust. Casters confusion. Epic intros.

Back under your bridge lol...
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
Saber_Rider
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden361 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 15:16:11
June 07 2016 15:15 GMT
#2442
Sooo.... just checked the VOD... that "Battleview" needs be taken out back and shot ASAP. Who's idea was that? The HP bars on separate sides of the screen, really?... Maybe I'm just old and grumpy
FFE or die trying
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 07 2016 15:15 GMT
#2443
Newbee got an invite after crushing for 3/4 months and then flailing about uselessly afterwards, there is no precedent for it beause that year didn't have majors. Newbee also kept 3/5th of their players that year just like EG.

i'd imagine they'd still invite EG.
WriterXiao8~~
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 07 2016 15:16 GMT
#2444
On June 08 2016 00:15 Kipsate wrote:
Newbee got an invite after crushing for 3/4 months and then flailing about uselessly afterwards, there is no precedent for it beause that year didn't have majors. Newbee also kept 3/5th of their players that year just like EG.

i'd imagine they'd still invite EG.

Makes sense, as viewership is an important factor for eSports.
kiss kiss fall in love
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 15:18:31
June 07 2016 15:16 GMT
#2445
Secret should just kick EE, and get a more active carry that has better decision making. EE is not bad, but he is not very good either, and I can't see these players synergize. EE pick never made sense to me, outside he is a harder worker than XBOCT.

Furthermore him "Saying how it is", without reluctance is not gonna give a very good atmosphere in most teams.
LiangHao
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
June 07 2016 15:18 GMT
#2446
On June 07 2016 23:57 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:56 ragnorr wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
Cloud 9 showed more flashes of brilliance in their games than this uncoordinated, unsynergized mess of a team.

cloud 9 was a good team tho, they were pretty consistant in getting to the final where they decided to play like shit. This secret iteration has done nothing but lose and go out as early as posible

Their match winrate has dipped below 40% for sure, I think it might be in the 30s at this rate.


30%? I think they won 1 out of 10 bo3 they played so far. I'm sure they only won against ehome, but not sure how many they played in total
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 15:19:48
June 07 2016 15:18 GMT
#2447
On June 08 2016 00:11 Pandemona wrote:
Rtz and EE are more than tier 1 at these positions, Universe is the same. PLD and Puppey won't be going anywhere as it seems to be there team.

More than Tier 1 sounds awesome. Too bad it isn't enough. TS are utterly disgusting bad not only as a team, but individually too. Only pld is decent. that's 1 for 5.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 07 2016 15:19 GMT
#2448
Yea secret not functioning exactly due to what I predicted when they were fkrmed. Xd
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
June 07 2016 15:19 GMT
#2449
Secret deserved this. Completely unprofessional the way they treated w33 and Misery.

EG also out, they kind of got screwed by Secret as well. I guess this is a bit of karma of what they did to Aui
YOLO
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 07 2016 15:19 GMT
#2450
Lets be honest.. Empire had a solid draft and played great dotes today! Well deserved imo...

Back to the drawing board Secret.
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 15:21:25
June 07 2016 15:19 GMT
#2451
The main problem with the hypothetical "invite all major winners + last year's TI winner to TI" compared to the "invite last year's TI winner" model is that it's possible you end up using four slots of your sixteen slots on teams that are going to be terrible for the last 6 months, rather than one. That just sucks from a competitive integrity standpoint.

It would make sense to do that in a formal qualification system-but in a formal qualification system you might not keep your qualification if you lose 40% of your team.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 07 2016 15:19 GMT
#2452
On June 08 2016 00:18 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:57 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:56 ragnorr wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
Cloud 9 showed more flashes of brilliance in their games than this uncoordinated, unsynergized mess of a team.

cloud 9 was a good team tho, they were pretty consistant in getting to the final where they decided to play like shit. This secret iteration has done nothing but lose and go out as early as posible

Their match winrate has dipped below 40% for sure, I think it might be in the 30s at this rate.


30%? I think they won 1 out of 10 bo3 they played so far. I'm sure they only won against ehome, but not sure how many they played in total

Oh shit I meant to say "game winrate." But you're right about them only winning one match.
kiss kiss fall in love
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 07 2016 15:20 GMT
#2453
Well if you are going to rest on your laurels you deserve to be punished. Hopefully valve recognize that. Maybe even add a condition that you have to retain the original squad that won the major to receive a TI invite.
High Risk Low Reward
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 07 2016 15:21 GMT
#2454
I feel that Disruptor is Team Secrets kryptonite... Wish they would just first ban it.
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
June 07 2016 15:21 GMT
#2455
That commitment to kill the solo support riki at the end, a ravage and a bkb.

Not sure if miscommunication or if they're just tired of it all.
Keep moving forward
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
June 07 2016 15:21 GMT
#2456
bone7 & zai said on stream that secret drafted bad even on scrims
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 07 2016 15:22 GMT
#2457
On June 08 2016 00:21 neozxa wrote:
That commitment to kill the solo support riki at the end, a ravage and a bkb.

Not sure if miscommunication or if they're just tired of it all.

And then they also didn't follow up with taking Rosh, while assembling no objectives of their own.
kiss kiss fall in love
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 07 2016 15:22 GMT
#2458
On June 08 2016 00:15 Kipsate wrote:
Newbee got an invite after crushing for 3/4 months and then flailing about uselessly afterwards, there is no precedent for it beause that year didn't have majors. Newbee also kept 3/5th of their players that year just like EG.

i'd imagine they'd still invite EG.
Well, China didnt play all that many tournaments, and Valve has always intended to pick a lot of Chinese teams, so it feel somewhat different.

That said, I don't think EG has been poor enough, but I do feel regardless, and also for their own sake, that they start to play more tournaments.
LiangHao
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 07 2016 15:23 GMT
#2459
On June 08 2016 00:21 neozxa wrote:
That commitment to kill the solo support riki at the end, a ravage and a bkb.

Not sure if miscommunication or if they're just tired of it all.


Can't recall the situation exactly but their smoke popped, not sure if they could have thought there is someone else close by too. But popping bkb isn't very surprising if you are expecting a sand king to come your way.
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 07 2016 15:26 GMT
#2460
On June 08 2016 00:19 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The main problem with the hypothetical "invite all major winners + last year's TI winner to TI" compared to the "invite last year's TI winner" model is that it's possible you end up using four slots of your sixteen slots on teams that are going to be terrible for the last 6 months, rather than one. That just sucks from a competitive integrity standpoint.

It would make sense to do that in a formal qualification system-but in a formal qualification system you might not keep your qualification if you lose 40% of your team.

You talk like winning a major is some no-talent giveaway. Winning a Major is as good as winning a TI in terms of competition and skill-required. So if you get to be invited for a competion one year ago... how is the same logic forgotten for competitions 3,6 and 9 months ago?
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
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