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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 15:03 GMT
#801
Ah, rOtk made the logical response to remove the Chen. That wasn't a good ban.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 30 2016 15:04 GMT
#802
Why would he ban chen

we have seen ppd play that hero

i still have nightmares
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 30 2016 15:04 GMT
#803
On January 30 2016 23:49 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:43 rabidch wrote:
anyway LGD did exactly the same thing as yesterday, push up to high ground and then run away and then eventually throw game because they cant do anything to morphling

Well EG did not give them the opportunity for a single good engagement or pickoff, it was amazing map movements. My main concern is that I find it boring that a team can go all in on a better scaling hero while only having to be concerned about highground defense. They did not care that LGD was outfarming them because they knew that a somewhat decent trade at their base was enough to put them on almsot equal footing. Ehome just went for this same kind of strat against OG, not giving a fuck about early and midgame outside of having some guaranteed farm on their main carry and be on par after some highground defense.


Was LGD really outfarming them? The gold lead was relatively manageable all game as far as I saw, and LGD had a very hard time dealing with the Morph as he got some items so EG was comfortable having him as the only really farmed hero. I don't think this is a particularly great example of a team dominating the entire map but just not being able to highground, given that Arteezy was the most farmed player in the game from a pretty early stage.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 15:08:46
January 30 2016 15:07 GMT
#804
On January 31 2016 00:04 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:49 nojok wrote:
On January 30 2016 23:43 rabidch wrote:
anyway LGD did exactly the same thing as yesterday, push up to high ground and then run away and then eventually throw game because they cant do anything to morphling

Well EG did not give them the opportunity for a single good engagement or pickoff, it was amazing map movements. My main concern is that I find it boring that a team can go all in on a better scaling hero while only having to be concerned about highground defense. They did not care that LGD was outfarming them because they knew that a somewhat decent trade at their base was enough to put them on almsot equal footing. Ehome just went for this same kind of strat against OG, not giving a fuck about early and midgame outside of having some guaranteed farm on their main carry and be on par after some highground defense.


Was LGD really outfarming them? The gold lead was relatively manageable all game as far as I saw, and LGD had a very hard time dealing with the Morph as he got some items so EG was comfortable having him as the only really farmed hero. I don't think this is a particularly great example of a team dominating the entire map but just not being able to highground, given that Arteezy was the most farmed player in the game from a pretty early stage.

i think the biggest problem was gyro items, he was always 1/3 of his HP at all times because of morph, he needed to be a tank, i dont think you needed that much more damage with Lycan/Vlads, especially if you wanted to push and not kill heroes

no way you can push just like that, especially when theres a lina, venge swap or kunkka boat to kill retreats
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
January 30 2016 15:08 GMT
#805
Haven't seen a Wyvern in a while.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 30 2016 15:08 GMT
#806
On January 30 2016 23:59 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:51 rabidch wrote:
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk really is not a late game player, his best teams centered around executing death pushes or relying on burning. the way LGD plays is so conservative its not any surprise he'd be mediocre on it


I don't really agree with that (his clock for example tends to be spotty early on but is usually very effective in lategame fights), but even if, he's not mediocre, he's downright atrocious.

i base my opinion off of many tedious slowpaced lategame games where i see rotk's team do nothing and then lose game. im sure everybody remembers DK vs iG from TI3
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 30 2016 15:10 GMT
#807
On January 31 2016 00:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Haven't seen a Wyvern in a while.

What a world.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 15:10 GMT
#808
Oh god, the cancer is coming. ppd with some hate on rOtk.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 30 2016 15:12 GMT
#809
LGD not wanting to be out-lategamed this time
Bora Pain minha porra!
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
January 30 2016 15:16 GMT
#810
On January 31 2016 00:10 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 00:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Haven't seen a Wyvern in a while.

What a world.


He was used yesterday. Good counter to Invoker.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 15:17 GMT
#811
On January 31 2016 00:12 Sbrubbles wrote:
LGD not wanting to be out-lategamed this time


Good luck getting there with the damage that'll be coming in during the mid-game.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 30 2016 15:18 GMT
#812
Poor ROTK, he can't do anything vs enchantress as spirit breaker.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 30 2016 15:18 GMT
#813
I'm watching it on mute, so I haven't heard the commentary. Was LGD's agressive tri to dodge the enchantress ?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 15:19 GMT
#814
No Root Gaming.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 30 2016 15:19 GMT
#815
do you think rtz was screaming for a root during that whole sequence
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 30 2016 15:19 GMT
#816
Now there's a rage-inducing level of entangle rng.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 30 2016 15:19 GMT
#817
"pseudorandom"
ffxiv enjoyer
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 30 2016 15:20 GMT
#818
Why would Sylar turn that way... just run straight and ur safe :S
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 30 2016 15:20 GMT
#819
Come on icefrog give Arteezy a root.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
St.Velten
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany222 Posts
January 30 2016 15:21 GMT
#820
So will we see this again?
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