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Zizy
Profile Joined August 2012
Croatia684 Posts
January 30 2016 14:47 GMT
#781
I think that soon we'll have either a fast finish games, style Alliance recently is starting to run or games like this one where people are waiting for momentum where gold and xp starts to favor the team that is behind and press their advantage once they have successfully defended their base.

Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#782
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#783
GG, at least EG can win against ES.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#784


you know the performance is something else if it's this guy who flames you lol
this is a quote
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#785
typical LGD run
topping group stage
than no win at all vs western team
-Terran-
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#786
PPD - Maelk award.

Seriously, how good are EG lategame!?
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#787
Blaming this game on ES not building Aghs.

(only slight sarcasm)
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#788
EG played some boring dota, but you gotta admire their poise. Feels like all of LGD's smoke ganks only caught ppd.
Bora Pain minha porra!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#789
On January 30 2016 23:43 rabidch wrote:
anyway LGD did exactly the same thing as yesterday, push up to high ground and then run away and then eventually throw game because they cant do anything to morphling

Well EG did not give them the opportunity for a single good engagement or pickoff, it was amazing map movements. My main concern is that I find it boring that a team can go all in on a better scaling hero while only having to be concerned about highground defense. They did not care that LGD was outfarming them because they knew that a somewhat decent trade at their base was enough to put them on almsot equal footing. Ehome just went for this same kind of strat against OG, not giving a fuck about early and midgame outside of having some guaranteed farm on their main carry and be on par after some highground defense.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#790
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk has always performed at this level, though, he's a consistently weak initiator on basically every hero but Dark Seer

Don't you remember the rotk feed tax back in the day?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#791
See EG can totally counter ES.
it all matters
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 14:52:03
January 30 2016 14:51 GMT
#792
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk really is not a late game player, his best teams centered around executing death pushes or relying on burning. the way LGD plays is so conservative its not any surprise he'd be mediocre on it
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 14:52 GMT
#793
This is a LONG tournament day, lol.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 30 2016 14:54 GMT
#794
On January 30 2016 23:49 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk has always performed at this level, though, he's a consistently weak initiator on basically every hero but Dark Seer

Don't you remember the rotk feed tax back in the day?


He actually performed pretty damn well for Ehome during TI5. Sure he also fucked up, but overall he was really valuable, especially as clock. Meanwhile, I literally can't remember a single standout performance since he joined LGD.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 14:55 GMT
#795
On January 30 2016 23:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk really is not a late game player, his best teams centered around executing death pushes or relying on burning. the way LGD plays is so conservative its not any surprise he'd be mediocre on it



You target ban Dark Seer. He is 14-2 this patch on the Hero.

That's when LGD is scary. They're 22-16 without rOtk on Dark Seer.

And there doesn't seem to be any data feed for game 1? (I just got back)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 14:58 GMT
#796
On January 30 2016 23:49 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:43 rabidch wrote:
anyway LGD did exactly the same thing as yesterday, push up to high ground and then run away and then eventually throw game because they cant do anything to morphling

Well EG did not give them the opportunity for a single good engagement or pickoff, it was amazing map movements. My main concern is that I find it boring that a team can go all in on a better scaling hero while only having to be concerned about highground defense. They did not care that LGD was outfarming them because they knew that a somewhat decent trade at their base was enough to put them on almsot equal footing. Ehome just went for this same kind of strat against OG, not giving a fuck about early and midgame outside of having some guaranteed farm on their main carry and be on par after some highground defense.


Super High Ground defense, with their right main Cores, is a "thing" in the MDL meta. You can either push early or just defend and team wipe the other team. That's actually a way to play around Earth Spirit. But Earth Spirit really just needs to be banned if you're 2nd Pick.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 30 2016 14:58 GMT
#797
On January 30 2016 23:52 Taf the Ghost wrote:
This is a LONG tournament day, lol.

Just 1/2 more hour. that means EG finishes the day at 11/12 PM and started it at 10 AM ...
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 30 2016 14:59 GMT
#798
Man Eg came back to win. When I left to play some games, Sumail was having a rough time mid.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 30 2016 14:59 GMT
#799
On January 30 2016 23:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:48 Orome wrote:
As much as I want to talk about strategy and lineups and bla bla bla, it's really difficult to win games when one of your players is completely useless every single game. I really like rotk, but his performance since joining LGD has been abysmal.

rotk really is not a late game player, his best teams centered around executing death pushes or relying on burning. the way LGD plays is so conservative its not any surprise he'd be mediocre on it


I don't really agree with that (his clock for example tends to be spotty early on but is usually very effective in lategame fights), but even if, he's not mediocre, he's downright atrocious.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 30 2016 15:00 GMT
#800
On January 30 2016 23:49 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:43 rabidch wrote:
anyway LGD did exactly the same thing as yesterday, push up to high ground and then run away and then eventually throw game because they cant do anything to morphling

Well EG did not give them the opportunity for a single good engagement or pickoff, it was amazing map movements. My main concern is that I find it boring that a team can go all in on a better scaling hero while only having to be concerned about highground defense. They did not care that LGD was outfarming them because they knew that a somewhat decent trade at their base was enough to put them on almsot equal footing. Ehome just went for this same kind of strat against OG, not giving a fuck about early and midgame outside of having some guaranteed farm on their main carry and be on par after some highground defense.

Only having to be concerned about highground defense? They had to be concerned about getting killed while managing to stall the push. They managed to stay one tower and 2-3 kills behind the all game. And outside of the highground defense, almost all their death were ppd. That takes considerable skill, more than running at towers (which is something EG gladly does as well).

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
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