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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 29 2016 03:15 GMT
#61
On January 29 2016 12:13 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:05 hfglgg wrote:
ok what was rtzs plan there? check if they are there and if they are i am dead cause luna?

They played that well. No auto attacks so he wasn't sure if they saw him or not, and the Torrent was the only stun that would actually stop the BKB pop before he'd lost half his health.


he went into the roshpit alone with no backup. yeah if col doesnt have a sentry there against a clinkz it works, but no it never works in a real game.

He doesn't need backup against Lesh and a Luna with no right click yet. You get spotted, you pop BKB, you won't come close to dying until the rest of your team gets there.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 29 2016 03:15 GMT
#62
On January 29 2016 12:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:
It still strikes me that someone will figure out a way to build Enchantress into a draft that's going to be pure cancer. Not sure what it'll be, but it still seems like it could be setup like Huskar from last patch.

the strat is to pick enchantress and huskar together
huskar = unkillable by magic
enchantress = unkillable by physical
so no matter what they pick one of them is unkillable
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:17:46
January 29 2016 03:16 GMT
#63
On January 29 2016 12:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:13 hfglgg wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:05 hfglgg wrote:
ok what was rtzs plan there? check if they are there and if they are i am dead cause luna?

They played that well. No auto attacks so he wasn't sure if they saw him or not, and the Torrent was the only stun that would actually stop the BKB pop before he'd lost half his health.


he went into the roshpit alone with no backup. yeah if col doesnt have a sentry there against a clinkz it works, but no it never works in a real game.

He doesn't need backup against Lesh and a Luna with no right click yet. You get spotted, you pop BKB, you won't come close to dying until the rest of your team gets there.


if luna clicks R he is dead.
edit: didnt he pick the bkb up only after the fight? if he had bkb the move was understandable.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 29 2016 03:17 GMT
#64
On January 29 2016 12:16 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:13 hfglgg wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:05 hfglgg wrote:
ok what was rtzs plan there? check if they are there and if they are i am dead cause luna?

They played that well. No auto attacks so he wasn't sure if they saw him or not, and the Torrent was the only stun that would actually stop the BKB pop before he'd lost half his health.


he went into the roshpit alone with no backup. yeah if col doesnt have a sentry there against a clinkz it works, but no it never works in a real game.

He doesn't need backup against Lesh and a Luna with no right click yet. You get spotted, you pop BKB, you won't come close to dying until the rest of your team gets there.


if luna clicks R he is dead.

luna's R does nothing unless he's stunned. the entire exchange comes down to if they stun rtz before he knows they know, and they played it well to get the raw stun on him without showing they knew he was there
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 29 2016 03:18 GMT
#65
On January 29 2016 12:15 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:
It still strikes me that someone will figure out a way to build Enchantress into a draft that's going to be pure cancer. Not sure what it'll be, but it still seems like it could be setup like Huskar from last patch.

the strat is to pick enchantress and huskar together
huskar = unkillable by magic
enchantress = unkillable by physical
so no matter what they pick one of them is unkillable


What does Enchantress do with Oracle's Fate's Edict? (Magic Immunity) Huskar + Enchantress + Chen + Oracle + some mid laner.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
January 29 2016 03:19 GMT
#66
On January 29 2016 12:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:15 Verniy wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:
It still strikes me that someone will figure out a way to build Enchantress into a draft that's going to be pure cancer. Not sure what it'll be, but it still seems like it could be setup like Huskar from last patch.

the strat is to pick enchantress and huskar together
huskar = unkillable by magic
enchantress = unkillable by physical
so no matter what they pick one of them is unkillable


What does Enchantress do with Oracle's Fate's Edict? (Magic Immunity) Huskar + Enchantress + Chen + Oracle + some mid laner.

Mid Rubick for magic resist aura and lulz/
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 29 2016 03:21 GMT
#67
coL's best bet is to give playmaking heroes to their mid/carry. Viper luna are too easy to play around.

PPD was able to farm deep on the enemy safelane as a solo AA for like 5 minutes. that's how easy it was for EG to play around their slow 5-man
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 29 2016 03:25 GMT
#68
welp col please win one game to cover
secret - never again
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 29 2016 03:25 GMT
#69
ppd pretty much got a "free" draft, given the first phase picks & bans. That won't happen again this tournament, probably, haha.

Oh, and with a Clinkz pick, we're up to 84 Heroes picked so far.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 29 2016 03:26 GMT
#70
Is there anyone streaming the BTS cast on a site other than Azubu?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
January 29 2016 03:31 GMT
#71
On January 29 2016 12:26 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there anyone streaming the BTS cast on a site other than Azubu?

I'm using livestreamer to stream it in my media player, it's quite pleasant
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 29 2016 03:31 GMT
#72
On January 29 2016 12:26 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there anyone streaming the BTS cast on a site other than Azubu?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/38by5j/anyone_know_how_to_use_azubutv_with_livestreamer/

I'm playing it with livestreamer using this and it's nice.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 29 2016 03:33 GMT
#73
Livestreamer as well.

And Complexity learned from game 1. But, really, Batrider isn't the ban, either.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 29 2016 03:35 GMT
#74
On January 29 2016 12:16 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:13 hfglgg wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 29 2016 12:05 hfglgg wrote:
ok what was rtzs plan there? check if they are there and if they are i am dead cause luna?

They played that well. No auto attacks so he wasn't sure if they saw him or not, and the Torrent was the only stun that would actually stop the BKB pop before he'd lost half his health.


he went into the roshpit alone with no backup. yeah if col doesnt have a sentry there against a clinkz it works, but no it never works in a real game.

He doesn't need backup against Lesh and a Luna with no right click yet. You get spotted, you pop BKB, you won't come close to dying until the rest of your team gets there.


if luna clicks R he is dead.
edit: didnt he pick the bkb up only after the fight? if he had bkb the move was understandable.

Pretty sure he had BKB for like 5 minutes before that even happened.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 29 2016 03:35 GMT
#75
Hrmm... what is ppd is going to run Arteezy on...
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 29 2016 03:38 GMT
#76
Nice to see the Clinkz pick up, I do believe the hero is strong and under picked.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:39:10
January 29 2016 03:38 GMT
#77
Umm... Arteezy Nature's Prophet? Does he have something up his sleeve?

Edit: Nature's Prophet is 0-4 at MDL.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 29 2016 03:38 GMT
#78
so EG needs to start getting furion involved really fast

like TI4 rotk furion style
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
January 29 2016 03:38 GMT
#79
RTZ NP

Dis gon be gud
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:41:57
January 29 2016 03:40 GMT
#80
RTZ is 8-3 on Nature's Prophet all time.


Huh, well, we'll see.


Edit: Is there some Hard, Right-Click build on NP? Something that goes well with Faceless Void?
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