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On January 17 2016 21:53 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 21:44 SaltySam wrote:On January 17 2016 21:27 FuzzyJAM wrote:On January 17 2016 21:21 sunrazgriz wrote:On January 17 2016 21:18 lolnoty wrote:On January 17 2016 21:16 sunrazgriz wrote:On January 17 2016 21:12 lolnoty wrote:On January 17 2016 21:10 sunrazgriz wrote:On January 17 2016 21:08 lolnoty wrote:On January 17 2016 21:04 sunrazgriz wrote:
but... but...
in bo5 , EG would .....
VP looked just a good against them in the Summit up 2-0. Alliance 100% won, but don't pretend that you know how it would have gone if it were 5 games.  okay it's starladder fault then. no? Alliance won. It doesn't matter how many games the finals were, the length of series makes it completely different and not worth arguing. even bo7 , sumail's hero pool is limited , s4 win all day long vs sumail. limited compared to which other mids? i believe the starladder final is EG vs A s4: NS, Puck, Bat, QoP, DP - 5 Sumail: Zeus, QoP, Ember, Bat, Brew, SK, Razor, DP, Invoker - 9 Yeah man, Sumail only almost played twice as many heroes as S4 this tournament. If only his hero pool wasn't so limited and he could do more than play a different hero almost every game. You forgot to add Razor, Leshrac, Brewmaster, and, Dragon Knight to S4's hero pool. Also, Lina for Sumail. (S4 continued to pick Leshrac even after he was nerfed) 9 to 10 ? How did I forget anything? I was going by this tournament, as I clearly stated, seeing as that was what was being discussed. S4 won the tournament despite playing half as many heroes as Sumail, so clearly Sumail's hero pool isn't too limited to win the tournament - that's total nonsense. Ah okay. I wasn't inferring that Sumail's hero pool was small. Sumail has a wider hero pool than S4, no question. I just wanted to show that S4 has more heroes that work in this meta than many people think.
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On January 17 2016 23:21 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 23:17 eonrulz wrote:Missed the finals - I gather Alliance won, but were the games any good? Should I go catch them on VOD?  2 derp drafts from PPD, would not recommend catching VODS unless you are a fan of Alliance.
that luna pick was legit and s salt though
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were the finals worth watching? My guess is not from the reddit reaction.
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On January 17 2016 23:33 stuchiu wrote:
were the finals worth watching? My guess is not from the reddit reaction.
No it was disappointing. PPD getting out drafted twice is not something you see everyday.
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On January 17 2016 21:42 bluzi wrote:
Fuck all the cry babies about the patch , alliance got nerfed to the ground as a team after TI3 , so now we see holes in EG drafting ? good , it shouldn't be their patch all the time shouldn't it ? no chen or wisp player is hurting them like alliance having no Ember player is hurting them for ages now , just let us celebrate the win peacefully , jeez , OG/Vg/newbee didn't get half the flake Alliance get for running the same thing over and over until a major/TI was won/almost won .... whatever haters gonna hate , they outplayed EG and won fair and square , RTZ should be mad at his team losing mid lanes and picking him a god damn Luna.....
Who's crying? I see EG hates more than anything. I can't go anywhere without NA Dota meme's and non stop praises for S4.
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On January 17 2016 21:51 Artisreal wrote:
I have to say, Slacks did a pretty hype interview. Loda was flabbergasted for a second after his first question.
Though due to his apparent character I never know if he's posing a serious question to, joking with or playing the interviewee.
Yeah, he brought more energy than someone like kotlguy, though he overdid it a few times.
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Alliance won? Crap, they didn't get the memo...
Never win tournaments just before a major. WCA was fine because everyone called it fluke, but this isn't good. Now the bullseye will be on Alliance for the Shanghai Major. They better go and loose to some tier 2 EU teams now to take that eye away and place it back on EG where it should be!
:D :D :D
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On January 18 2016 00:34 Ohforfsake wrote:
Alliance won? Crap, they didn't get the memo...
Never win tournaments just before a major. WCA was fine because everyone called it fluke, but this isn't good. Now the bullseye will be on Alliance for the Shanghai Major. They better go and loose to some tier 2 EU teams now to take that eye away and place it back on EG where it should be!
:D :D :D
Or why not do a ti3 repeat, where they win everyone including the big daddy?
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On January 18 2016 01:26 shad2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2016 00:34 Ohforfsake wrote:
Alliance won? Crap, they didn't get the memo...
Never win tournaments just before a major. WCA was fine because everyone called it fluke, but this isn't good. Now the bullseye will be on Alliance for the Shanghai Major. They better go and loose to some tier 2 EU teams now to take that eye away and place it back on EG where it should be!
:D :D :D Or why not do a ti3 repeat, where they win everyone including the big daddy?
Noone has been able to do it since then. And going into TI3 people were questioning how good Alliance really was since they lost in the last tournament before the big one. But I guess there's only to hope for you're view to come true now.
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This tournament managed to make reddit even more of a circlejerk than it already was. The stupidity of that forum never ceases to amaze.
Cool to see Alliance win though, the rise and fall and rise again is probably one of the coolest esports stories out there.
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EG crying like babies on Twitter because they can't pick for shit. Funny as fuuuuuuuuck.
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Pick EGM back up and start winning tournies again. Glad Alliance knows what the key to their success was.
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On January 18 2016 02:27 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Validated the invite.
The invite was valid all along. IDK how people thought 2 minor LAN wins on a previous patch outweighed a major LAN win on the current patch. Honestly most of the people who disagreed with the invite were either super salty Liquid fans or just flat out don't know to evaluate strong play. I wasn't one hundred percent convinced after WCA because it was only a single outing, but they certainly looked much more solid than Liquid at the time.
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On January 17 2016 21:59 Shergal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 21:37 Azarkon wrote:On January 17 2016 21:14 Shergal wrote:
So I guess this actually puts Secret on a better position in the patch, considering they basically should've won against the champions and only barely lost. Also they can play some of these Alliance heroes. Secret had a very solid pick against Alliance the first game, that looked to have actually put Alliance off their game. They took away the Prophet, took Bat, forced Alliance to ban Chen, banned the Juggernaut the second phase, and Alliance only got to play their Lone Druid, which was not enough for their strategy to work. The second game, however, even though Secret threw, they were not as successful at shutting down the picks. Alliance got both Chen and Lone Druid that game, and that made it a lot easier for them. The third game, Puppey got his Chen but Alliance got both Bat and Lone Druid. From that series as well as this one, it looks as though you don't want to give Alliance two of Bat/Lone Druid/Prophet/Wisp, but that's of course not practical unless you're going to first pick those heroes yourself. Nah I think the only real issue is Chen. All the other heroes can be countered and outplayed, it's just the performance level of the teams in this LAN was really low (IMO, including Alliance, but they're on an upwards spiral with all their heroes being viable again).
WTF are you even saying.... man im going to be braindead by the end of this LR .....those were the top teams in the world , they dont just become all bad in a day nor god like in the other , the level was high as always in the tip top of the dota world , you cannot understand the game and level of play is not anyone fault by yourself mate....
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On January 18 2016 03:45 SupLilSon wrote:The invite was valid all along. IDK how people thought 2 minor LAN wins on a previous patch outweighed a major LAN win on the current patch. Honestly most of the people who disagreed with the invite were either super salty Liquid fans or just flat out don't know to evaluate strong play. I wasn't one hundred percent convinced after WCA because it was only a single outing, but they certainly looked much more solid than Liquid at the time.
Wasn't even 2 LAN wins.
1 Online tourney and 1 tiny LAN.
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I enjoyed this tournament a lot (and what an insane crowd !), but they'll have to work for a better tourney format next time. Not enough dota for such a big amount of teams imo.
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EPT
