[Starladder] Season 13 LAN Finals Playoffs Day 3 - Page 34
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Thoughts: You need 3 things to Win a big tournament: 1) 3 strategies or 3 variations on the same strategy, allowing you to always get a good draft. 2) A draft advantage via Hero Pool compared to the Tournament Meta. 3) At least one player playing at a "next level" compared to everyone else. Alliance brought a 4th key that's going to need to be figured out. They've figured out how to farm more efficiently with the new map. In a low-kill EG game, they're almost always up 2-3k at 10 minutes, but they were consistently outfarmed in both games, regardless of how the lanes were going. That Dire off-lane needs to be really explored well. (Credit to Puppey for both calling how the series would play out and the score.) I do think the Veno was probably not the best choice in game 2 from ppd, but that's not why they lost. They lost because Alliance had figured out their farming pattern better and come up with some brutally hard to deal with rotations. Add on top of that their best heroes dominated the Meta at Starladder. But Alliance both knows how to play them and how to play against them. That game 2 was instructive. With Bat + Zeus, Alliance played the Vision + Nighttime game so well that it was a 2:1 kill score at 20 minutes. Alliance's warding was also really on point. (And it showed some of the problem EG had in game 2 against LGD: really good vision game prevents a lot of what EG wants to do.) s4 was definitely playing the best of Alliance, though everyone was on-point from Day 2 on. And since s4 is their playmaker, that really opened up the map for them. Add in the great vision game and they were able to both farm better and shut down the farm on EG. The last point I have is that I think EG hit on the actual Meta direction in Day 1 and didn't quite realize it. Alliance had both strong push and supports that can heal + do something else. (Juggernaut's Healing Ward was pretty critical in game 2 as well.) Call it the "hard sustain" method of support play we've been seeing for a while now, but it's only getting more important. Game 1 really turned on the sustain + position of Alliance at that Top Radiant Tier 1 fight. If Wisp gets picked off, they probably get wiped and the game looks very different. (Most EG games tend to be about those early rotations. If they snag the right one, they can carry the lead to a victory. That's why banning Spirit Breaker is what allowed them to move from 0-2 to win 3-2 against VP at The Summit 4.) | ||
spudde123
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On January 17 2016 21:27 Gear 3rd wrote: This patch could develop into a nightmare for EG. I will stop my rant about A now. I still dont like them but when they won I thought "well at least theyre celebrating: humans confirmed!" Imo if some particular players sort out their issues (which they propably will) i think Secret TL could come out really strong this patch in the long run. And i am really curious how OG and VG will approach the patch at shanghai. Off to TI3 VODs to study. To be frank I've always considering to be one of the most robotic teams out there, but hey we're all biased I guess. | ||
JoeHannes
Germany207 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On January 18 2016 06:46 Taf the Ghost wrote: (Credit to Puppey for both calling how the series would play out and the score.) Just curious does anyone have a link to this interview/post? | ||
SaltySam
65 Posts
On January 18 2016 19:13 JoeHannes wrote: s4 just like he was the drafter for Team Secret during their period of dominance.Who is drafting for Alliance? | ||
Huruid
Sweden22 Posts
On January 18 2016 19:29 HopLight wrote: Just curious does anyone have a link to this interview/post? | ||
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