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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 01 2015 17:43 GMT
#681
On December 02 2015 02:41 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 02:37 Acritter wrote:
Silver Edge breaks Berserker's Blood, right? I mean, either way it's a crazy good item for Alliance to get, but the issue remains of who to build it on.

s4 probably.

Breaks berserkerblood and bristleback, yeah good item this game.

Like, honestly it would be a sick item to build on WW if that could be done in a reasonable amount of time, but it can't. The problem is that neither Tiny nor Gyro really want to have a Silver Edge on them. Maybe WD? It'd be so much easier if they had an SF or something.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 17:44:26
December 01 2015 17:44 GMT
#682
On December 02 2015 02:42 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 02:38 DucK- wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:27 Acritter wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:23 DucK- wrote:
Game should still be og's. Nice try with the cute aa last pick.

Unless og doesn't want to stabilise.

I don't think either lineup has a crazy, untouchable advantage. It's more down to whichever team plays better. If OG gives one of their better performances, then yeah, they'll beat Alliance. If OG is only solid and Alliance gives one of their best performances in years, then Alliance can win it.

If Alliance can kill supports and kite Huskar/Bristle, they should win the midgame. Otherwise, they could be in a lot of trouble.


The nature of gyro means that he is useless against huskar or bb all game. So yea they really need og to screw up mid game which they are doing atm. Alliance key heroes are AA and WD, but even that may not be enough against a tanky huskar and bristle.

Anyway all these skirmishes are not benefitting alliance because their cores are not farming at all. They need to be hugeeee

The value of Gyro is that he slows both of those heroes through BKB and shreds OG's other three heroes. Alliance aren't going to be killing the two OG cores reliably in the lategame until their support system is down.

Gyro ult hasn't slowed through bkb since 6.85 hit
rip
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
December 01 2015 17:44 GMT
#683
Look at this game , 5v5 pub meta going on in here....6.86 when? lol
Getting too old for this..
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 17:44:59
December 01 2015 17:44 GMT
#684
On December 02 2015 02:42 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 02:38 DucK- wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:27 Acritter wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:23 DucK- wrote:
Game should still be og's. Nice try with the cute aa last pick.

Unless og doesn't want to stabilise.

I don't think either lineup has a crazy, untouchable advantage. It's more down to whichever team plays better. If OG gives one of their better performances, then yeah, they'll beat Alliance. If OG is only solid and Alliance gives one of their best performances in years, then Alliance can win it.

If Alliance can kill supports and kite Huskar/Bristle, they should win the midgame. Otherwise, they could be in a lot of trouble.


The nature of gyro means that he is useless against huskar or bb all game. So yea they really need og to screw up mid game which they are doing atm. Alliance key heroes are AA and WD, but even that may not be enough against a tanky huskar and bristle.

Anyway all these skirmishes are not benefitting alliance because their cores are not farming at all. They need to be hugeeee

The value of Gyro is that he slows both of those heroes through BKB and shreds OG's other three heroes. Alliance aren't going to be killing the two OG cores reliably in the lategame until their support system is down.

gyro ult doesn't slow through bkb anymore
e: 3slow
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 01 2015 17:45 GMT
#685
On December 02 2015 02:44 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 02:42 Acritter wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:38 DucK- wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:27 Acritter wrote:
On December 02 2015 02:23 DucK- wrote:
Game should still be og's. Nice try with the cute aa last pick.

Unless og doesn't want to stabilise.

I don't think either lineup has a crazy, untouchable advantage. It's more down to whichever team plays better. If OG gives one of their better performances, then yeah, they'll beat Alliance. If OG is only solid and Alliance gives one of their best performances in years, then Alliance can win it.

If Alliance can kill supports and kite Huskar/Bristle, they should win the midgame. Otherwise, they could be in a lot of trouble.


The nature of gyro means that he is useless against huskar or bb all game. So yea they really need og to screw up mid game which they are doing atm. Alliance key heroes are AA and WD, but even that may not be enough against a tanky huskar and bristle.

Anyway all these skirmishes are not benefitting alliance because their cores are not farming at all. They need to be hugeeee

The value of Gyro is that he slows both of those heroes through BKB and shreds OG's other three heroes. Alliance aren't going to be killing the two OG cores reliably in the lategame until their support system is down.

Gyro ult hasn't slowed through bkb since 6.85 hit

More proof that we have left the golden age of doto the second
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 01 2015 17:46 GMT
#686
Half of alliance chasing a bristle meanwhile their supports are getting slaughtered.
LMAO,.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
December 01 2015 17:46 GMT
#687
that was not the play, pls.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 01 2015 17:48 GMT
#688
Come on please....
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
LeeARK
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
December 01 2015 17:48 GMT
#689
pretty sure Akke needed to winter's curse Bristle there so the AA ult hit
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
December 01 2015 17:49 GMT
#690
isnt the idea of WW/AA to use curse into AA ulti to get a multi man blast ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 01 2015 17:49 GMT
#691
NotLikeThis
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 17:51:26
December 01 2015 17:50 GMT
#692
Yeah, Alliance have been taking these fights poorly and OG have been taking them well. Bristle and Huskar are getting too big. I think the midgame might have tipped too far towards OG in the end.

OG can't instantly and fearlessly take rax, which is why I'm not saying it's over. A good high ground defense can still get Alliance back into even footing. I just don't see that as super likely.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 01 2015 17:53 GMT
#693
Alliance need so badly to be able to kill Cr1t.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 01 2015 17:53 GMT
#694
this OG draft lacks class
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 01 2015 17:54 GMT
#695
Yep exactly as I said.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 01 2015 17:55 GMT
#696
OG are really clean when it comes to take highground, I hope we get back to a little less sustain focus meta so you have to commit instead of slow poking.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 01 2015 17:56 GMT
#697
I just hate Huskarr games
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 01 2015 17:56 GMT
#698
On December 02 2015 02:54 DucK- wrote:
Yep exactly as I said.

OG is just one of the best teams right now. From basically any position that isn't horrendous, you can say that a significantly better team will find a way to win, and most of the time they will. More useful to say exactly what's needed to win from each side.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 01 2015 17:57 GMT
#699
Fucking Alliance man. Always making me laugh my ass off.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 01 2015 17:57 GMT
#700
GG Alliance. Sorry, but I don't think I have the resolution to watch game 2.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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