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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 08 2015 08:02 GMT
#81
How come no one picks Doom any more?
@miicah88
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
August 08 2015 08:03 GMT
#82
On August 08 2015 11:35 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 11:33 uberxD wrote:
I may sound like a racist ass, but we really need at leat a western team in the finals for the sake of story telling. I will root for EG for sure in their match vs LGD.


LGD vs CDEC would be quite the storyline too though. B-team looking to beat the former A-team, whose captain happens to be last year's winner's captain.

Think of it like a bunch of upstarts trying to deny xiao8 from becoming the first repeat TI champion.

ROFL, I think it's ironic that LGD is from group A and CDEC is from group B.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
August 08 2015 08:25 GMT
#83
On August 08 2015 17:02 miicah wrote:
How come no one picks Doom any more?

too many cores to doom, which is the only thing he's good at?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 08 2015 08:32 GMT
#84
I can't sleep. I even called in work tomorrow just to see these games. WTF is wrong with me....
Getting too old for this..
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
August 08 2015 08:54 GMT
#85
On August 08 2015 17:32 Danzo wrote:
I can't sleep. I even called in work tomorrow just to see these games. WTF is wrong with me....

Just a dota fan, nothing is wrong with you (well at least I hope).
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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 08 2015 09:15 GMT
#86
On August 08 2015 17:02 miicah wrote:
How come no one picks Doom any more?

Bad offlaner, even worse safelaner. Isn't mobile enough to split push or stop splitting easily. Mobility also means he can't initiate fights often, whereas common offlaners like clock tusk ds etc almost always can. Needs too many items to really be useful but if you go something like midas you're just gonna get run over by most good teams. Not super good in aggro dual lanes that are currently popular.

Only role you can maybe do with him is a greedy 4 pos jungler and that's hard when there's bounty hunters in every game and bloodseeker is being picked.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
August 08 2015 09:18 GMT
#87
LGD vs CDEC FIGHT!

Sister teams in combat with each other.

EG doesn't deserve Grand Finals after that shameful display with Razor.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 08 2015 10:08 GMT
#88
On August 08 2015 17:02 miicah wrote:
How come no one picks Doom any more?


Too many items now counter him very hard... glimmer cape, lotus orb, he's kinda useless
The Real Power~
vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
August 08 2015 10:40 GMT
#89
So hyped. Go CDEC vs LGD
Oh, I'm chasing this guy. [Dodd shoots at Leonard] No... he's chasing me.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 08 2015 11:02 GMT
#90
I don't get the people who say lgd v cdec is a worse storyline. It clearly is a better story (ex-b team of lgd looking more dominant, the stealing of Maybe, Director8's return run... What does eg bring to the table apart from the old boring western hope thing?), only perhaps harder to sell to an American audience. But, you know, mainstream audience can be found not only in America. And people enjoying a good storyline will fire up more for the many-faceted story and rivalry than for West vs East.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 08 2015 11:16 GMT
#91
On August 08 2015 20:02 Ufnal wrote:
I don't get the people who say lgd v cdec is a worse storyline. It clearly is a better story (ex-b team of lgd looking more dominant, the stealing of Maybe, Director8's return run... What does eg bring to the table apart from the old boring western hope thing?), only perhaps harder to sell to an American audience. But, you know, mainstream audience can be found not only in America. And people enjoying a good storyline will fire up more for the many-faceted story and rivalry than for West vs East.


I don't think it's a bad storyline, it would be a good one. I've just been rooting for EG the whole year and think it's also a good storyline. Fear one of the oldest active players finally getting a chance to play again at TI and getting the aegis. Getting the oldest person and the youngest person to first win the international. As well as that would be the first time an American team won. Every international before was won by Europe or China.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 08 2015 11:19 GMT
#92
Im going to be so sad if its China vs China finals.. I can still accept CDEC winning if China has to win..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 08 2015 11:24 GMT
#93
For the drafts, what do you all think about EG banning lina/bounty first phase if they don't have first pick. Both of those heros seem to be bigger problems then gyrocopter or shadow fiend. Lina too versatile/good, bounty makes it if you fall behind you can't trade and game spirals super fast out of control or if you are ahead, unless you have 30k lead you need perfect play cause track gold and a couple bad fights can easily erase a 10k lead.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 08 2015 11:24 GMT
#94
On August 08 2015 20:16 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 20:02 Ufnal wrote:
I don't get the people who say lgd v cdec is a worse storyline. It clearly is a better story (ex-b team of lgd looking more dominant, the stealing of Maybe, Director8's return run... What does eg bring to the table apart from the old boring western hope thing?), only perhaps harder to sell to an American audience. But, you know, mainstream audience can be found not only in America. And people enjoying a good storyline will fire up more for the many-faceted story and rivalry than for West vs East.


I don't think it's a bad storyline, it would be a good one. I've just been rooting for EG the whole year and think it's also a good storyline. Fear one of the oldest active players finally getting a chance to play again at TI and getting the aegis. Getting the oldest person and the youngest person to first win the international. As well as that would be the first time an American team won. Every international before was won by Europe or China.


I was not trying to say you should not root for EG! I was talking about the statements that Chinese finals would be worse story-wise or in mainstream appeal. You make some good points I have not considered, though I still prefer the master v students story.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 08 2015 11:26 GMT
#95
On August 08 2015 20:24 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 20:16 the bear jew wrote:
On August 08 2015 20:02 Ufnal wrote:
I don't get the people who say lgd v cdec is a worse storyline. It clearly is a better story (ex-b team of lgd looking more dominant, the stealing of Maybe, Director8's return run... What does eg bring to the table apart from the old boring western hope thing?), only perhaps harder to sell to an American audience. But, you know, mainstream audience can be found not only in America. And people enjoying a good storyline will fire up more for the many-faceted story and rivalry than for West vs East.


I don't think it's a bad storyline, it would be a good one. I've just been rooting for EG the whole year and think it's also a good storyline. Fear one of the oldest active players finally getting a chance to play again at TI and getting the aegis. Getting the oldest person and the youngest person to first win the international. As well as that would be the first time an American team won. Every international before was won by Europe or China.


I was not trying to say you should not root for EG! I was talking about the statements that Chinese finals would be worse story-wise or in mainstream appeal. You make some good points I have not considered, though I still prefer the master v students story.


Oh I know, people should root for who they want. I just hear a lot of, "stupid fans only rooting for EG cause they are racists and don't like to see the Chinese win."

Which wasn't you, just wanted to point out EG has a compelling story too.

Though if it's CDEC vs LGD, I'd root for CDEC. What a crazy run they have had. But that said, let's go EG! No more Razor!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
August 08 2015 12:10 GMT
#96
How do you even beat CDEC? You can't Techies them. You can't let them have Gyro or PL. Maybe bait an Ember, Lesh and draft somethimg new against those? Maybe Doom, Io+Tiny?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 12:16:16
August 08 2015 12:15 GMT
#97
On August 08 2015 21:10 toemn wrote:
How do you even beat CDEC? You can't Techies them. You can't let them have Gyro or PL. Maybe bait an Ember, Lesh and draft somethimg new against those? Maybe Doom, Io+Tiny?


I didn't watch the games but VP 2-0'ed em without Techies
The Real Power~
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 08 2015 12:18 GMT
#98
On August 08 2015 21:10 toemn wrote:
How do you even beat CDEC? You can't Techies them. You can't let them have Gyro or PL. Maybe bait an Ember, Lesh and draft somethimg new against those? Maybe Doom, Io+Tiny?


Don't pick Razor.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 08 2015 12:19 GMT
#99
On August 08 2015 21:15 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 21:10 toemn wrote:
How do you even beat CDEC? You can't Techies them. You can't let them have Gyro or PL. Maybe bait an Ember, Lesh and draft somethimg new against those? Maybe Doom, Io+Tiny?


I didn't watch the games but VP 2-0'ed em without Techies


rofl i went to check it out apparently EG 2-0 them both games had techies and VP both game had CM. funny.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 08 2015 12:36 GMT
#100
A random question - does anybody know what is the winnings tax in China? I was wondering how much are the Chibese players actually going to win...

And thank you the bear jew for showing me that civilized discussion on Ld forums is still a thing.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
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