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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much. Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks. On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that. | ||
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United States7542 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:46 lolnoty wrote: the rest of the world's obsession with heritage is more concerning to me than USA chants. Though I am actually excited that Sumail may start growing a Pakistan scene. More places playing DotA on a competitive scale would be pretty cool. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:44 WolfintheSheep wrote: Also said Secret was unstoppable, Empire was third best in the world, C9 would shut out Chinese teams from the top 3, MVP would make Loser's Finals, VP would crush LGD... Azarkon says a lot of things. We seriously need a log blog of all his flipflopping. Sure, sure, but you fail to see the big idea, which is West > China this year. Doesn't matter how much I go from team to team; that's the idea I'm going for. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:47 Asha` wrote: Gamers seem to have a really hard time dealing with variance and luck. Perhaps it's a desire to be taken seriously but there always seems to be a belief that the best players or teams must be afforded the best possible chance of making the finals. actually it's a relic from when LAN's were a common thing between people having fun losing once and going home is a bummer weekend, double elim is more popular because even if you aren't going to win you get to play more games. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:48 Azarkon wrote: Sure, sure, but you fail to see the big idea, which is West > China this year. Doesn't matter how much I go from team to team; that's the idea I'm going for. I mean, you are actually grasping for straws. EG will likely win, but West as a whole lost in grander picture, especially compared to Ti3. | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:42 babysimba wrote: Are there any potential royal roaders that lost when they made it to the finals? No, because there hasn't been any RR that made it to the TI finals. Orange was the closest, but Orange was an invite team. They started their journey deep in the Lower Bracket. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:49 Elurie wrote: No, because there hasn't been any RR that made it to the TI finals. Orange was the closest, but Orange was an invite team. They started their journey deep in the Lower Bracket. Alliance? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:49 Elurie wrote: No, because there hasn't been any RR that made it to the TI finals. Orange was the closest, but Orange was an invite team. They started their journey deep in the Lower Bracket. I mean, royal roader in Dota 2 is iffy because if we count teams, then we have to count someone with 3 prior TI appearances as someone walking the royal road. As for first-TI-appearance 5 players, there were none in finals before except TI1. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:47 lolfail9001 wrote: Who cares about who wins tournaments. Check West vs China record this tournament (main stage in particular). We compare scenes, not teams, ya forgot? They won a lot of other Western teams in those tournaments they lost, too. As long as one Western team pulls through, what does it matter? The result is still: China hasn't won a tournament in months. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:47 Drazerk wrote: No winner advantage really kills the hype :/ Nah, it makes the hype way bigger. It's just a bit silly to not have one if you're playing dual elim | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:46 Shergal wrote: WEC actually had double elimination grand finals, with two sets of BO3 played and the winner bracket team having to only win one (or was it two sets of BO5? Doesn't matter either way). Double elimination tournaments are inherently shitty though. I never understood gaming's fetish for them. Double elimination exists because there is no consistency in team seeding and prize pool. If DotA had a proper team ranking system and a prize pool spread across every tournament in the year, the single elim would be fine. It's a fucking horrible idea when seeding is entirely dependent on luck and tournaments can eclipse the total sum of everything else in a year. Take this tournament for example. Top 6 teams, 5 were in Group B. | ||
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Vankuga
Panama2005 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:50 Azarkon wrote: They won a lot of other Western teams in those tournaments they lost, too. As long as one Western team pulls through, what does it matter? The result is still: China hasn't won a tournament in months. China has won every tournament in China after spring shuffle except MDL, you lost. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 09 2015 05:48 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, you are actually grasping for straws. EG will likely win, but West as a whole lost in grander picture, especially compared to Ti3. There were only two Western teams above top Chinese teams in 2013. Did that stop people from saying West > China? | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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SnowStormer
Norway275 Posts
A team that wins ti with a complete set of 5 people who has never played in a ti before? A player who wins ti on his first time, regardless of team shuffles? A team who wins ti on their first try (organization)? | ||
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