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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
August 08 2015 20:43 GMT
#2381
On August 09 2015 05:38 Emnjay808 wrote:
Yea people need to calm down about USA fanboyism. This event happens once a year and youre acting like you cant stomach it.

If it isn't complaining about USA chants, it'd be about why TI isn't in Europe, or Nahaz, or the All Star match, etc. People complain about the same shit every year. I've just learned to sit back and enjoy the salt.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
August 08 2015 20:43 GMT
#2382
On August 09 2015 05:40 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:38 hfglgg wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:38 Canucklehead wrote:
It's a joke there's no advantage for the winner's finalist in a double elimination tourney. Should at least be up 1 game if you don't want to go the extra set route. Only team to not get a double elimination extra life.


they play one game less, its a pretty big advantage.


That's not how double elimination tourneys work. Extra rest isn't enough of an advantage. Eg would be eliminated now if it was single elimination.

It's still the best way to have a good finals. You can complain that CDEC didn't lose a series in the main event, but they got 2-0 by EG in the groups. All in all both teams have lost one series this tournament.

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 08 2015 20:43 GMT
#2383
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 08 2015 20:43 GMT
#2384
On August 09 2015 05:42 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:42 phantomlancer23 wrote:
Is LD time accurate,it says that final starts in 1 hour 20 mins?

They just said an hour break on stream as well.

It's for the best. EG needs time to unfocus and calm down.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2385
On August 09 2015 05:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:37 pyro19 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think PPD has ever lost finals to any team other than Secret.

CDEC has never won a finals.

This is a win for America, and another loss for China in the year of loss.

PPD lost finals to Empire, to VG, to iG. So get your facts straight, West fanfriend.


They did lose to Empire, but that's another Western team. I don't think PPD has lost this year to a Chinese team in the finals.


they've only played one tournament this year where they faced a chinese team in the finals


What's important is that CDEC has been in the finals a lot in China, but never won.


EG is not a "Chinese team".

We don't know whether CDEC finals choking abilities extend to any finals they are in tho. That's why i am almost sad because EG will win it and Azarkon won't shut up despite this tournament being complete failure for West.


Azarkon never shuts up anyway, you should know that. He might occasionally go dormant but he'll always be back. He's a terminal illness.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2386
On August 09 2015 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Azarkon already said that "PPD won't lose to CDEC again."


he also said they wouldnt lose ever.

Also said Secret was unstoppable, Empire was third best in the world, C9 would shut out Chinese teams from the top 3, MVP would make Loser's Finals, VP would crush LGD...

Azarkon says a lot of things. We seriously need a log blog of all his flipflopping.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
sirreginold
Profile Joined September 2011
United States557 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2387
If EG wins it all I wonder how much EG the organization takes before awarding it to their players.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2388
On August 09 2015 05:43 Daralii wrote:
https://twitter.com/TraLFDota/status/630116135686422528

tralf is always wrong before he's right, so maybe this means EG wins NEXT year 3-1
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2389
On August 09 2015 05:43 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:40 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:38 hfglgg wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:38 Canucklehead wrote:
It's a joke there's no advantage for the winner's finalist in a double elimination tourney. Should at least be up 1 game if you don't want to go the extra set route. Only team to not get a double elimination extra life.


they play one game less, its a pretty big advantage.


That's not how double elimination tourneys work. Extra rest isn't enough of an advantage. Eg would be eliminated now if it was single elimination.

It's still the best way to have a good finals. You can complain that CDEC didn't lose a series in the main event, but they got 2-0 by EG in the groups. All in all both teams have lost one series this tournament.


Imagine TI with extended series MLG style !
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2390
On August 09 2015 05:44 sirreginold wrote:
If EG wins it all I wonder how much EG the organization takes before awarding it to their players.


10%
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 08 2015 20:44 GMT
#2391
Every1 forgot about Aui's C9 curse
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2392
BOLD PREDICTION
winner will win 3 games
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2393
On August 09 2015 05:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:39 Elurie wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:36 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Sumail going to be the youngest self made millionaire ?

http://listverse.com/2013/08/22/revised-10-self-made-kid-millionaires/

Damnit one of them earned a million bucks by making jam. I feel such a failure

“I can’t be preoccupied with the money,” he says. “I make jam because it’s what I love to do. Success is pretty sweet too.”

LOL
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2394
Calling it now, next TI all the US teams will strengthen their line-ups with Pakistani and Canadian Superstars.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2395
On August 09 2015 05:44 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:37 pyro19 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think PPD has ever lost finals to any team other than Secret.

CDEC has never won a finals.

This is a win for America, and another loss for China in the year of loss.

PPD lost finals to Empire, to VG, to iG. So get your facts straight, West fanfriend.


They did lose to Empire, but that's another Western team. I don't think PPD has lost this year to a Chinese team in the finals.


they've only played one tournament this year where they faced a chinese team in the finals


What's important is that CDEC has been in the finals a lot in China, but never won.


EG is not a "Chinese team".

We don't know whether CDEC finals choking abilities extend to any finals they are in tho. That's why i am almost sad because EG will win it and Azarkon won't shut up despite this tournament being complete failure for West.


Azarkon never shuts up anyway, you should know that. He might occasionally go dormant but he'll always be back. He's a terminal illness.

I mean, Azarkon did say he will shut up if Chinese will win. I mean, i know he would not but it would be even more funny if CDEC win it and he does not shut up about Western superiority anyways.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 20:46:18
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2396
On August 09 2015 05:41 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:39 Skillver wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:38 Canucklehead wrote:
It's a joke there's no advantage for the winner's finalist in a double elimination tourney. Should at least be up 1 game if you don't want to go the extra set route. Only team to not get a double elimination extra life.


No, it is fine as it is now. A final should be a final without advantage. CDEC already has the advantage of not having to play another exhaustive BO3 today.

I don't get this. It should be a penalty to lose the bigger the penalty the better.

Having CDEC not have any sort of benefit is pretty silly given these people already play DOTA a huge amount normally anyhow so its not too much of an issue playing some extra games


Why are we going over this every single year? It's been like this since the beginning, it ain't going to change. It's a personal preference. People who don't like winners' advantages have to deal with it in other tournaments, the other side has to deal with it in TI.

And "playing some extra games" at such high stakes is definitely a massive disadvantage, and it is intellectually dishonest to compare it to being able to play/scrim for 10 hours on an ordinary day.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2397
On August 09 2015 05:44 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:44 sirreginold wrote:
If EG wins it all I wonder how much EG the organization takes before awarding it to their players.


10%


That's your hopeful prediction or is this backed by facts ?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2398
On August 09 2015 05:44 babysimba wrote:
Every1 forgot about Aui's C9 curse

It was just a C9 curse, and Aui was bringing the average up.

Proof: C9 no second place since Aui left. QED.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2399
On August 09 2015 05:39 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:37 pyro19 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think PPD has ever lost finals to any team other than Secret.

CDEC has never won a finals.

This is a win for America, and another loss for China in the year of loss.

PPD lost finals to Empire, to VG, to iG. So get your facts straight, West fanfriend.


They did lose to Empire, but that's another Western team. I don't think PPD has lost this year to a Chinese team in the finals.


they've only played one tournament this year where they faced a chinese team in the finals


What's important is that CDEC has been in the finals a lot in China, but never won.


EG is not a "Chinese team".

We don't know whether CDEC finals choking abilities extend to any finals they are in tho. That's why i am almost sad because EG will win it and Azarkon won't shut up despite this tournament being complete failure for West.


Him proclaiming Western superiority would almost be funnier though.


It's funny because it wouldn't even be wrong.

China hasn't won a tournament in months, despite there being lots of tournaments in the last few months.

Them not winning again... I don't know about you, but it doesn't make me think China > West, indeed not even China = West.

Sure, they have a lot of top finish. But a win is a win. You don't get to be the best with second, else C9 is the best team in the world.

To which end, I think that were China to lose again, I'm all for West > China.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 08 2015 20:45 GMT
#2400
On August 09 2015 05:44 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:37 pyro19 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:32 Azarkon wrote:
I don't think PPD has ever lost finals to any team other than Secret.

CDEC has never won a finals.

This is a win for America, and another loss for China in the year of loss.

PPD lost finals to Empire, to VG, to iG. So get your facts straight, West fanfriend.


They did lose to Empire, but that's another Western team. I don't think PPD has lost this year to a Chinese team in the finals.


they've only played one tournament this year where they faced a chinese team in the finals


What's important is that CDEC has been in the finals a lot in China, but never won.


EG is not a "Chinese team".

We don't know whether CDEC finals choking abilities extend to any finals they are in tho. That's why i am almost sad because EG will win it and Azarkon won't shut up despite this tournament being complete failure for West.


Azarkon never shuts up anyway, you should know that. He might occasionally go dormant but he'll always be back. He's a terminal illness.


That PL flair sounds more and more appropriate as time goes by.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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