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On July 07 2015 04:39 DavoS wrote:
C9 stomped NiP hard yesterday too, can't tell if C9 are just a step ahead of these teams or if VP's invite was questionable
This logic seems quite a bit off. VP was the 4th most deserving team from the EU+CIS region to be invited. They are also losing now to a directly invited team. Not sure how this suddenly means that VP isn't better than all the other teams (who in this very tournament for example are placing behind them).
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On July 07 2015 04:38 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 04:36 goody153 wrote:On July 07 2015 04:34 FHDH wrote:
VP suddenly threw their way out of being within reasonable range of this game. they weren't really in any reasonable range of winning this game outside the first 5 minutes you need a lead to throw You really don't, but let's say that's true: what do you call it when you start making idiotic plays that have no chance of working, or walking into the enemy team one-by-one?
Tilting
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On July 07 2015 04:39 DavoS wrote:
C9 stomped NiP hard yesterday too, can't tell if C9 are just a step ahead of these teams or if VP's invite was questionable
vp got an invite because there was one to give and they deserved it more than alliance, nip and everyone else in the qualifiers. they were never a better team than other direct invites, but there were enough invites to give out.
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On July 07 2015 04:38 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 04:36 goody153 wrote:On July 07 2015 04:34 FHDH wrote:
VP suddenly threw their way out of being within reasonable range of this game. they weren't really in any reasonable range of winning this game outside the first 5 minutes you need a lead to throw You really don't, but let's say that's true: what do you call it when you start making idiotic plays that have no chance of working, or walking into the enemy team one-by-one?
? ??? losing ?? tilting ??
cause you need a winning lead to throw .. that's not called throw when c9 won every fight outside 1 fight past 5 minutes
nice are you back to being against all teams that are not navi ?
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it takes c9 twice as large of a lead as secret to close out games or something
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On July 07 2015 04:42 andyrau wrote:
it takes c9 twice as large of a lead as secret to close out games or something
well secret is pretty fucking good .. and low cd on death timers doesn't help
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On July 07 2015 04:42 andyrau wrote:
it takes c9 twice as large of a lead as secret to close out games or something
Fantasy gg. And c9 are less objective focused.
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VP uses slark way too much as a comfort pick way too often. I don't even understand what made them think slark would do well in this game. He's actually a pretty bad hero vs gyrocopter because rocket barrage destroys him, especially when he has an ancient seal on himself.
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FATA started off 0-4-0 and is now beyond godlike.
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not as stompy as the last game but still a huge stomp
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On July 07 2015 04:42 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 04:38 FHDH wrote:On July 07 2015 04:36 goody153 wrote:On July 07 2015 04:34 FHDH wrote:
VP suddenly threw their way out of being within reasonable range of this game. they weren't really in any reasonable range of winning this game outside the first 5 minutes you need a lead to throw You really don't, but let's say that's true: what do you call it when you start making idiotic plays that have no chance of working, or walking into the enemy team one-by-one? ? ??? losing ?? tilting ?? cause you need a winning lead to throw .. that's not called throw when c9 won every fight outside 1 fight past 5 minutes nice are you back to being against all teams that are not navi ?
I've always liked VP more than C9 but that's not really material here. We use "throw" in a weird way which shortens to "throw away a lead" but "throwing" in conventional usage really just means losing on purpose. So yeah you can't do the former (which is what most people mean by throwing) without a lead but you can definitely start playing like an idiot knowing you're going to lose. Is it tilting? Yeah if they're upset. Otherwise I don't know another word for it.
Anyway I don't know if their draft made it impossible to win but they did go from being fairly close on kill count to having fed away all hope of being able to win. Who knows.
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Sweet, 2nd place secured.
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just like old times eg vs c9 (and just like old times c9 losing when the series matters)
after VP not even close to winning 2 b05's against c9 and eg .. that should kill the bandwagon about them being top 3 in the world (lmao top 3 in the world) just because they won b01 seeding matches
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Nice prizepool for this tourney, but pro Dota is still a long way from being financially reliable. Look at me, I haven't made a cent from it.
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On July 07 2015 04:46 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 04:42 goody153 wrote:On July 07 2015 04:38 FHDH wrote:On July 07 2015 04:36 goody153 wrote:On July 07 2015 04:34 FHDH wrote:
VP suddenly threw their way out of being within reasonable range of this game. they weren't really in any reasonable range of winning this game outside the first 5 minutes you need a lead to throw You really don't, but let's say that's true: what do you call it when you start making idiotic plays that have no chance of working, or walking into the enemy team one-by-one? ? ??? losing ?? tilting ?? cause you need a winning lead to throw .. that's not called throw when c9 won every fight outside 1 fight past 5 minutes nice are you back to being against all teams that are not navi ? I've always liked VP more than C9 but that's not really material here. We use "throw" in a weird way which shortens to "throw away a lead" but "throwing" in conventional usage really just means losing on purpose. So yeah you can't do the former (which is what most people mean by throwing) without a lead but you can definitely start playing like an idiot knowing you're going to lose. Is it tilting? Yeah if they're upset. Otherwise I don't know another word for it. Anyway I don't know if their draft made it impossible to win but they did go from being fairly close on kill count to having fed away all hope of being able to win. Who knows.
just plain losing should do
and even when VP had a kill lead first 5 minute c9 had triple the CS VP had
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I like whenever C9 do a bit badly one week and some team that hasn't been that good all year performs well for one week, because it always makes people undervalue C9 and then overhype the other team. More rares for me, boys.
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Every C9 player played a different hero each game this series. No strats revealed?
Edit: except misery's skywrath
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On July 07 2015 04:49 babysimba wrote:
Every C9 player played a different hero each game this series. No strats revealed?
i don't like them revealing the LC drafts but even last year they did reveal the meepo-doom ball before TI4
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I find the lack of Silencer disturbing. But well-played, C9!
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