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On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Post deathball it turned into Lycan, Naga, TB and Storm Spirit.
I get the feeling that he's going to be an extreme hard carry on Secret, minus the Lycan.
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On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. thats secret's new secret to add to their secrets.
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he plays naga and terrorblade too
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On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ember naga TA AM
He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had
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On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote: Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff. He played mid literally this game. Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else.
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On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.
ember spirit? *wink wink*
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United States13143 Posts
On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ember naga TA AM He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had rtz ember, huh
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On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote: Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff. He played mid literally this game. you cant make too much assumption off of that, secret probably looked at the lanes and just put him mid because they know he wouldve done incredibly well in mid as lycan versus magnus
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote: Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff. He played mid literally this game. Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else. Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool.
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On January 29 2015 18:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. ember spirit? *wink wink* Arteezy has sworn with borrowed anime spirit that his Ember will be legit.
Some day.
On January 29 2015 18:02 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote: Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff. He played mid literally this game. Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else. Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool. Sigh, no, I didn't forget, but at least until towards the end he still played mid the overwhelming majority of the time. He was playing farming mids and every once in a while he would play a safelane carry. Now you should expect that to flip on its head.
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On January 29 2015 18:02 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ember naga TA AM He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had rtz ember, huh rtz lost confidence playing ember after starladder, so unlikely he'll play it unless puppey says do as i say
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 29 2015 18:03 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 18:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. ember spirit? *wink wink* Arteezy has sworn with borrowed anime spirit that his Ember will be legit. Some day. He needs to bring out time machine, there was a period when his ember was acceptable. Yeah, when he started playing SoF-Chains.
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honestly I think BG played their draft fine. There's not much else they could've done beside all-in on that one last fight, and it nearly worked too
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On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ah, right, so only lycan. Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless.
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On January 29 2015 18:02 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote: Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff. He played mid literally this game. Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else. Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool. i think its am void and tb he concentrated on last i checked. not sure how good they actually are
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On January 29 2015 18:02 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ember naga TA AM He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had rtz ember, huh Forgot to add "was"
He's just lost someday he'll be able to play ember again
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On January 29 2015 18:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ah, right, so only lycan. Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless. 10 years since rtz sf...plz puppey give the people Artevermore
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On January 29 2015 18:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote: Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks. Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs. Lycan, death prophet and razor Ah, right, so only lycan. Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless. but realistically though we'd see s4 on most of those heroes. would not be surprised if secret might have a pocket setup with rtz on sf or pa mid though. kuro probably still has the wisp in him
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Oh, he played mid? I saw just the last 10 minutes of the game, lol. Still, his role is a bit different from the role he had on EG, the meta also changed with the patch, so expect to see different heroes out of him.
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On January 29 2015 18:08 cecek wrote: Oh, he played mid? I saw just the last 10 minutes of the game, lol. Still, his role is a bit different from the role he had on EG, the meta also changed with the patch, so expect to see different heroes out of him. Not really, pretty sure his role is going to be exactly the same as when he left EG from the looks of things. Primary farmer who gets mid whenever it suits the draft.
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