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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 29 2015 09:00 GMT
#681
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.

Post deathball it turned into Lycan, Naga, TB and Storm Spirit.

I get the feeling that he's going to be an extreme hard carry on Secret, minus the Lycan.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#682
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

thats secret's new secret to add to their secrets.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
January 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#683
he plays naga and terrorblade too
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
January 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#684
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ember naga TA AM

He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had
this is a quote
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
January 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#685
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote:
Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff.

He played mid literally this game.

Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#686
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.


ember spirit? *wink wink*
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#687
On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ember naga TA AM

He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had

rtz ember, huh
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#688
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote:
Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff.

He played mid literally this game.

you cant make too much assumption off of that, secret probably looked at the lanes and just put him mid because they know he wouldve done incredibly well in mid as lycan versus magnus
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#689
On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote:
Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff.

He played mid literally this game.

Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else.

Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 09:05:01
January 29 2015 09:03 GMT
#690
On January 29 2015 18:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.


ember spirit? *wink wink*

Arteezy has sworn with borrowed anime spirit that his Ember will be legit.

Some day.
On January 29 2015 18:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote:
Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff.

He played mid literally this game.

Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else.

Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool.

Sigh, no, I didn't forget, but at least until towards the end he still played mid the overwhelming majority of the time. He was playing farming mids and every once in a while he would play a safelane carry. Now you should expect that to flip on its head.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2015 09:03 GMT
#691
On January 29 2015 18:02 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ember naga TA AM

He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had

rtz ember, huh

rtz lost confidence playing ember after starladder, so unlikely he'll play it unless puppey says do as i say
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 09:04:25
January 29 2015 09:03 GMT
#692
On January 29 2015 18:03 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 18:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.


ember spirit? *wink wink*

Arteezy has sworn with borrowed anime spirit that his Ember will be legit.

Some day.

He needs to bring out time machine, there was a period when his ember was acceptable. Yeah, when he started playing SoF-Chains.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 29 2015 09:04 GMT
#693
honestly I think BG played their draft fine. There's not much else they could've done beside all-in on that one last fight, and it nearly worked too
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 29 2015 09:04 GMT
#694
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ah, right, so only lycan.

Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2015 09:05 GMT
#695
On January 29 2015 18:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 18:01 FHDH wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:59 cecek wrote:
Well Arteezy isn't playing mid anymore, I think his hero pool probably changed a lot from the EG days. He also practices different heroes in pubs and stuff.

He played mid literally this game.

Yes but the emphasis is on him being position one, not on being mid, unless something changed. So now you have to worry about his Anti-Mage and who knows what else.

Rtz always was position one on EG, ya forgot? Maybe he will play AM now, that's i think the only thing that may change now in regards to his hero pool.

i think its am void and tb he concentrated on last i checked. not sure how good they actually are
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
January 29 2015 09:05 GMT
#696
On January 29 2015 18:02 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 18:01 goody153 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ember naga TA AM

He changed his hero pool ever since PPD drafts push strays with all the EG drafting hero internal issue they had

rtz ember, huh

Forgot to add "was"

He's just lost someday he'll be able to play ember again
this is a quote
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
January 29 2015 09:06 GMT
#697
On January 29 2015 18:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ah, right, so only lycan.

Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless.
10 years since rtz sf...plz puppey give the people Artevermore
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2015 09:08 GMT
#698
On January 29 2015 18:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 17:59 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:58 ref4 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 29 2015 17:55 Azarkon wrote:
Provided Secret is simply a reinvigorated EG, then the proper way to play vs. them is to challenge RTZ's hero pool. When EG was slumping, they relied on RTZ Lycan to carry them through games. You ban them out and see what he picks.

Guys, i forgot, what was Rtz's pool again? I mean, i remember it used to be large but then EG started playing exclusive deathballs.


Lycan, death prophet and razor


Ah, right, so only lycan.

Well rtz actually has played a ton of mids well, but eg found a style that worked well leaving him with just those three heroes. He used to be a top teir qop/puck when those were a thing, and has a above average invoker and god knows his sf/pa are scary. He isn't admiral bulldog from ti3 where you ban two heroes and hes useless.

but realistically though we'd see s4 on most of those heroes. would not be surprised if secret might have a pocket setup with rtz on sf or pa mid though. kuro probably still has the wisp in him
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 29 2015 09:08 GMT
#699
Oh, he played mid? I saw just the last 10 minutes of the game, lol. Still, his role is a bit different from the role he had on EG, the meta also changed with the patch, so expect to see different heroes out of him.
super gg
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 29 2015 09:09 GMT
#700
On January 29 2015 18:08 cecek wrote:
Oh, he played mid? I saw just the last 10 minutes of the game, lol. Still, his role is a bit different from the role he had on EG, the meta also changed with the patch, so expect to see different heroes out of him.

Not really, pretty sure his role is going to be exactly the same as when he left EG from the looks of things. Primary farmer who gets mid whenever it suits the draft.
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