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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:21 GMT
#6121
On July 21 2014 10:18 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."

lol, he is right though.

You can't be right with personal opinions. And anyone who uses "casuals" in their argument is just a hipster tryhard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
July 21 2014 01:21 GMT
#6122
On July 21 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:16 kirsed wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."


Wow you're actually an idiot. Na'Vi has the biggest fan base of all western teams and probably the biggest fan base of any team. People who watch dota for TI usually only root for Na'Vi it's just natural. I like Na'Vi took pretty much everyone does that's my point if you're too retarded to see my point then I don't know what to say.

So you'll stop talking? Mission accomplished.


I see you alot on the sc2 and dota forums arguing with people. And for all the talk about how you fight idiots trying to spark drama, you start a lot more arguments than others start.
Byun, best player in the world!
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
July 21 2014 01:21 GMT
#6123
Are u srs? I go to take out the trash and its over? Oh well Gj VG :D
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6124
On July 21 2014 10:20 Garrl wrote:
people are SERIOUSLY complaining about a vici newbee finals? The two teams that have clearly proven themselves to be the best - newbee fought all the way from elimination to the grand finals without dropping a set and vici being #1 in pools. All because of "WELL THEYRE CHINESE"?

I'm just not very excited for the 5 man deathballs that will inevitably be the entire series. I also hate Newbee with a passion.
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6125
VG demolished EG tactically all 3 games. I think rOtk kinda threw game 2 with his terrible dooms pretty much whole game, just doom void = auto win. Also I think sylar should have gotten necrobook when he had tons of gold after getting orchid so that it can scout out the enigma/void better. (both heroes that need to stay hidden to initiate fights) while just pushing as well.

I'm extremely disappointed no DK in finals but DK were very hot and cold.
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6126
On July 21 2014 10:19 goody153 wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:14 Iceman331 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:10 lolnoty wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:06 oniman999 wrote:
Anyone else think smoke could use a nerf? The finals is two hyper aggressive, early game, smoke heavy teams. They draft push, use smoke to get a guaranteed kill or two, and then have the space for ez towers.

I've hated the smoke/sentry changes forever. So did Alliance, and I remember an interview where they said they were struggling because control of map vision didn't pay off as much anymore because you could just yolo smoke past good ward control.

Yeah smoke change sucks . It's unstoppable. Sure it allows comebacks which is great for watching but i think it's stupid.

I just want there to be fewer of them in the early game. The supply does not run out fast enough so supports can just yolo past wards.


Are you fucking serious? Smokes promote activity. If you didn't have smoke, supports would sit around doing nothing because it would be impossible to gank. Activity in the game is a good thing.

Of course it promotes activity that's why it's great for watching. And i like it during mid-lategames. It's great it allows comebacks . It's just the early game that it sucks.

Dude the effect is that you can't plan against it as said map control actually doesn't matter with smokes and core heroes has to play hide and seek all the time because of it.


You should look into this game called league of legends. The lanes there are all boring farm fests like you seem to want.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6127
On July 21 2014 10:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:17 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:14 Iceman331 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:10 lolnoty wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:06 oniman999 wrote:
Anyone else think smoke could use a nerf? The finals is two hyper aggressive, early game, smoke heavy teams. They draft push, use smoke to get a guaranteed kill or two, and then have the space for ez towers.

I've hated the smoke/sentry changes forever. So did Alliance, and I remember an interview where they said they were struggling because control of map vision didn't pay off as much anymore because you could just yolo smoke past good ward control.

Yeah smoke change sucks . It's unstoppable. Sure it allows comebacks which is great for watching but i think it's stupid.

I just want there to be fewer of them in the early game. The supply does not run out fast enough so supports can just yolo past wards.


Are you fucking serious? Smokes promote activity. If you didn't have smoke, supports would sit around doing nothing because it would be impossible to gank. Activity in the game is a good thing.

Its kinda trash. I like my action packed dota, but there is almost zero risk to smokes right now. I just want there to be a way to scout it out without having to be within 1000 of the hero.

there's risk to smokes: counterganks, or just plain failure while the other team's smokes work. by their nature, smokes are balanced because teams get an equal amount

except that defenders can't actually do anything against it unless you do the shit that PLD does which is always break smokes. It's zero risk to be honest. Although i like the current smoke since it provides entertaining games.
this is a quote
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6128
On July 21 2014 10:20 Garrl wrote:
people are SERIOUSLY complaining about a vici newbee finals? The two teams that have clearly proven themselves to be the best - newbee fought all the way from elimination to the grand finals without dropping a set and vici being #1 in pools. All because of "WELL THEYRE CHINESE"?


Why are you getting mad about peoples' opinions?

Yes, that is the case for many people. I'll still watch, but I would have been way more hyped to see an EG, C9 or Navi in the finals. I dislike seeing such new teams in the finals too personally.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6129
Atleast VG winning gives me something to be happy about. VG needs to win this TI after such an interview!
See you guys tomorrow
If its a bo5 i call VG 3-2
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6130
On July 21 2014 10:21 pedrlz wrote:
whos rich here?
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My fucking sides. My man right here haha
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6131
On July 21 2014 10:21 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
Are u srs? I go to take out the trash and its over? Oh well Gj VG :D

what? how did you take eg out?

:v
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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6132
I dont get why people complain that the final is going to be boring, because if there is a boring team this TI, it's definitely EG. VG vs Newbee will probably deliver really good games.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 01:24:18
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6133
Friendly reminder guys:

TI2 finals were 4 stomps in a row with an one hour prolonged death animation in the end.
Ti3 finals were 4 TERRIBLE stomps, and final close game. Just because NaVi made there doesn't make those finals any shitter than they were, don't kid youself.
VG vs NB were the closest playoff series we got, it has high chances to be best Bo5 series of entire year.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6134
On July 21 2014 10:20 N.geNuity wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:18 IcedBacon wrote:
Embarassing for the Dota community to see how many people are bitching about the finals now.


Nah, there is literally no community that has not bitched about the finals or some aspect of the finals (sport teams, esport teams, individual players, individual league titles, you name it)

what sucks is grand finals is the middle of a workday on a monday

True that! Eurgh. Was really thinking of filing a leave.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6135
On July 21 2014 10:20 Garrl wrote:
people are SERIOUSLY complaining about a vici newbee finals? The two teams that have clearly proven themselves to be the best - newbee fought all the way from elimination to the grand finals without dropping a set and vici being #1 in pools. All because of "WELL THEYRE CHINESE"?


it probably is
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6136
On July 21 2014 10:21 kaztah wrote:
of course people will whine right after their teams went out. Doesn't matter though, tomorrow will be top notch dota.

Most people are somehow still in the "chinese dota 60 minute farm fest" stereotype, even if vg just won like half their games in less than 20 minutes.


Nah everyone just bitches about 5 man pubtrain no skill push strats.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6137
On July 21 2014 10:20 Garrl wrote:
people are SERIOUSLY complaining about a vici newbee finals? The two teams that have clearly proven themselves to be the best - newbee fought all the way from elimination to the grand finals without dropping a set and vici being #1 in pools. All because of "WELL THEYRE CHINESE"?

Listen man they don't even have the same skin colour as I do! Think of all those random people that aren't going to watch the finals. Have you heard about those Chinese dota players I heard that they just kill creeps for ninety minutes no kills.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6138
On July 21 2014 10:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Friendly reminder guys:

TI2 finals were 4 stomps in a row.
Ti3 finals were 4 TERRIBLE stomps in a row, and final close game.
VG vs NB were the closest playoff series we got, it has high chances to be best Bo5 series of entire year.

TI3 Game 3 was not a stomp IMO
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6139
On July 21 2014 10:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:19 icystorage wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:19 Suffo wrote:
I don't get why they didnt have games on thursday so finals would be on Sunday... makes no sense to me.

maybe they cant book the thurs -> sun sked


I think they could have made it a three day event though. I really worry for the viewer count... I dunno, just seeing an 11 million prize pool and only 400k~ watching is a bit underwhelming to me.


If you are going to let viewership dictate how you enjoy the Grand Finals, then don't watch like all the other casuals.
You guys won't be missed.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#6140
On July 21 2014 10:20 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:16 kirsed wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."


Wow you're actually an idiot. Na'Vi has the biggest fan base of all western teams and probably the biggest fan base of any team. People who watch dota for TI usually only root for Na'Vi it's just natural. I like Na'Vi took pretty much everyone does that's my point if you're too retarded to see my point then I don't know what to say.

So you'll stop talking? Mission accomplished.

can you shut up actually im pretty sure you're being the instigator here

Says the kid who used the phrase casuals in his argument, like that's not a pejorative or anything.

User was warned for this post
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