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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6081
On July 21 2014 10:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."

it's true though

most random casuals probably don't know many teams other than na`vi and maybe allaince. without either, you lose those random casuals who are probably 50%+ of the viewerbase.

i think 50% is pushing it yo
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6082
On July 21 2014 10:14 Iceman331 wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:10 lolnoty wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:06 oniman999 wrote:
Anyone else think smoke could use a nerf? The finals is two hyper aggressive, early game, smoke heavy teams. They draft push, use smoke to get a guaranteed kill or two, and then have the space for ez towers.

I've hated the smoke/sentry changes forever. So did Alliance, and I remember an interview where they said they were struggling because control of map vision didn't pay off as much anymore because you could just yolo smoke past good ward control.

Yeah smoke change sucks . It's unstoppable. Sure it allows comebacks which is great for watching but i think it's stupid.

I just want there to be fewer of them in the early game. The supply does not run out fast enough so supports can just yolo past wards.


Are you fucking serious? Smokes promote activity. If you didn't have smoke, supports would sit around doing nothing because it would be impossible to gank. Activity in the game is a good thing.

Its kinda trash. I like my action packed dota, but there is almost zero risk to smokes right now. I just want there to be a way to scout it out without having to be within 1000 of the hero.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6083
On July 21 2014 10:16 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:16 icystorage wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol

valve and their 40mil doesnt care


40 million? So TI has no production costs? -__-

did i say TI has no production costs?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6084
On July 21 2014 10:12 i99 wrote:
worst ti ever.. format is so garbage. games are so boring same heroes every game



This either needs a "/s"

Or the Salt is strong
Go pro or die trying
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6085
On July 21 2014 10:17 Oddball28 wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:14 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:14 Oddball28 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:10 shizaep wrote:
well thats fucking awful


finals are anticlimactic now, two chinese teams, neither of which are fan favorites exactly

i highly doubt that vici will win a bo5 doing the same shit that they've been doing (which is literally only one fucking thing) I really feel like EG should have beat that. It's definitely hard to draft against, I'll agree

I was really hoping newbee won't win this TI. xiao8 disbanded lgd just to get in on some of this easy ti money. and not to mention the whole controversy with them boycotting DK. Literally the WORST team, even worse than iG.


What an obnoxious post. Also you are underestimating the fanbase rOtk has.


I think the viewer count tomorrow will speak the tale. We will see.


I told you I wont bother with you. Respect that, and don't bother writing at me. Thank you.


I'm confused?
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6086
On July 21 2014 10:16 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:16 icystorage wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol

valve and their 40mil doesnt care


40 million? So TI has no production costs? -__-


valve and their 38 or whatever mil then.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6087
On July 21 2014 10:16 Loire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol


well yea, cya tomorrow anyway


I only tuned in when people I knew were playing. Didn't watch 99% of the tournament not watching tomorrow.

BUT TEH G00D DODO GUYZ

Purdy8TV
Profile Joined December 2012
Uruguay226 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6088
On July 21 2014 10:15 neurosx wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:14 Bam Lee wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:12 i99 wrote:
worst ti ever.. format is so garbage. games are so boring same heroes every game


Are you serious?


Yeah if anyone thinks that they're just butthurt their fav team lost.


I can see why people dislike the format, or rather how it was played, knowing Newbee was in GF day 1 kinda sucked
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
July 21 2014 01:17 GMT
#6089
On July 21 2014 10:16 NexUmbra wrote:
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On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol

Okay.



I dont like either team in the finals, but the main reason Im not going to watch the finals is because its on a Monday... wtf.... most normal people have jobs.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6090
Embarassing for the Dota community to see how many people are bitching about the finals now.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6091
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."

lol, he is right though.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6092
On July 21 2014 10:17 Gentso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:16 Loire wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol


well yea, cya tomorrow anyway


I only tuned in when people I knew were playing. Didn't watch 99% of the tournament not watching tomorrow.

BUT TEH G00D DODO GUYZ


i don't give a shit

no-one does.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6093
On July 21 2014 10:18 IcedBacon wrote:
Embarassing for the Dota community to see how many people are bitching about the finals now.

self-entitlement brah
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6094
On July 21 2014 10:17 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:16 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:16 icystorage wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:15 Gentso wrote:
not gonna watch finals lol

valve and their 40mil doesnt care


40 million? So TI has no production costs? -__-

did i say TI has no production costs?


Ah, sorry. It's just frusturating when people think that Valve just made a free 40 million dollars, when it's not at all the case.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6095
Na'Vi cant save you now "FOREIGNERS"
-Terran-
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#6096
On July 21 2014 10:16 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."


Wow you're actually an idiot. Na'Vi has the biggest fan base of all western teams and probably the biggest fan base of any team. People who watch dota for TI usually only root for Na'Vi it's just natural. I like Na'Vi took pretty much everyone does that's my point if you're too retarded to see my point then I don't know what to say.

So you'll stop talking? Mission accomplished.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#6097
On July 21 2014 10:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:14 Iceman331 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:10 lolnoty wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:06 oniman999 wrote:
Anyone else think smoke could use a nerf? The finals is two hyper aggressive, early game, smoke heavy teams. They draft push, use smoke to get a guaranteed kill or two, and then have the space for ez towers.

I've hated the smoke/sentry changes forever. So did Alliance, and I remember an interview where they said they were struggling because control of map vision didn't pay off as much anymore because you could just yolo smoke past good ward control.

Yeah smoke change sucks . It's unstoppable. Sure it allows comebacks which is great for watching but i think it's stupid.

I just want there to be fewer of them in the early game. The supply does not run out fast enough so supports can just yolo past wards.


Are you fucking serious? Smokes promote activity. If you didn't have smoke, supports would sit around doing nothing because it would be impossible to gank. Activity in the game is a good thing.

Its kinda trash. I like my action packed dota, but there is almost zero risk to smokes right now. I just want there to be a way to scout it out without having to be within 1000 of the hero.

there's risk to smokes: counterganks, or just plain failure while the other team's smokes work. by their nature, smokes are balanced because teams get an equal amount
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Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
July 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#6098
TL is a minority though.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#6099
On July 21 2014 10:17 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 10:16 opterown wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch.

LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china."

it's true though

most random casuals probably don't know many teams other than na`vi and maybe allaince. without either, you lose those random casuals who are probably 50%+ of the viewerbase.

i think 50% is pushing it yo

the reason why TI generally has more viewers than other premier tourneys like dreamleague or ESL ONE is due to those random casuals who only know a team or two, like na`vi. for example in LoL i mainly know the name of SKT T1 even though they're not dominant anymore.
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Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
July 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#6100
I don't get why they didnt have games on thursday so finals would be on Sunday... makes no sense to me.
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