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i bet about $400 of stuff on IG
... holy shit am i about to lose everything LOL
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On July 20 2014 06:06 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:58 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. A lot of people have this image of Pros on this level, never missing a CS, like literally at all. The reality is quite different if you control the camera and focus on one of them. Yes a lot are very good at CSing and doesn't miss much, but not everyone is perfect. Missing CS doesn't matter in mid. For Voker, it's more about levels and not dying which matters most. P.S. and by the way, tunnel visioning CSing doesn't mean anything. I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff. I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say. I bet you also get mad at your teammates when you get ganked mid
Nope, they usually get mad at me for not ganking. I usually stay in mid unless someone asks me to do something, as I feel like the mid player should never be the one making the calls, and then people get mad when I don't help out if they don't say anything.
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On July 20 2014 06:07 Canucklehead wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:05 Mensol wrote:On July 20 2014 06:04 Canucklehead wrote:
Wtf. I'm cheering for IG cause I thought they had the best chance to beat Eg but they just got stomped. I dunno if lgd can beat Eg and DK already got stomped by them so I don't trust them to beat eg now. nice logic. I'm cheering for an all Chinese finals so it comes down to who I think has the best chance to beat Eg cause eg winning ti is a nightmare scenario.
high five, i want EG to lose as well.
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On July 20 2014 06:07 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:03 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:58 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:
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Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. A lot of people have this image of Pros on this level, never missing a CS, like literally at all. The reality is quite different if you control the camera and focus on one of them. Yes a lot are very good at CSing and doesn't miss much, but not everyone is perfect. Missing CS doesn't matter in mid. For Voker, it's more about levels and not dying which matters most. P.S. and by the way, tunnel visioning CSing doesn't mean anything. I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff. I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say. What's your benchmark as a mid player? 60 in 10 is pretty much really good in a competitive game. Only really see more if you got stacking in radiant side with something like Tinker or SF. Okay, honestly.... If I had nobody in my lane, just getting to free farm, I'd expect to get 55-57/60, and as such, when DP wasn't being pressured, I would have expected a 95%-98% CS rate. I was just surprised given the circumstance he was closer to 80%.
DP wasnt being pressured ?
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On July 20 2014 06:03 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:58 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:53 Seraphic wrote:On July 20 2014 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:46 wuhan_clan wrote:On July 20 2014 05:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 20 2014 05:43 Numy wrote:On July 20 2014 05:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
IG has been playing 4k MMR mechanically this game. Their last hitting has been absolutely brutal, especially F430. Ferarri_430 was shitting on Invoker and has 2nd highest CS in the game. What are you on about lol Have you been watching him?.... Don't give me the statistics bullshit, he's been doing nothing but farming. Watch the replay, really poor. Are you really this ... <insert reportable flame> You specifically criticize players for poor MECHANiCAL performance when cs is the best metric for measuring that. Maybe you should try to think before you post. No, CS is not an accurate metric. If one person is in lane CS'ing the entire time, and the other person is roaming more, CS doesn't tell the whole tale. I'm just saying that I've seen a good 10-15 CS at the time of my original post that was right under his tower, but he somehow managed to miss it. You can't just look at a game of Dota with such a narrow mind. Anyone that played in high pressure situations that can be ganked anytime, anywhere, will be prone to miss LHs just to be careful. CS score doesn't matter nearly as much as you believe. It doesn't matter if you are missing LHs, it's about surviving and not feeding the other team while trying to get as many as you can during. You should stop talking and making other decent Na'Vi fans look better. Maybe that's the case, maybe he wasn't focusing purely on the last hits. But he missed quite a lot of last hits for what I'm used to seeing when watching 5.5k MMR threads on DotaTV. A lot of people have this image of Pros on this level, never missing a CS, like literally at all. The reality is quite different if you control the camera and focus on one of them. Yes a lot are very good at CSing and doesn't miss much, but not everyone is perfect. Missing CS doesn't matter in mid. For Voker, it's more about levels and not dying which matters most. P.S. and by the way, tunnel visioning CSing doesn't mean anything. I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff. I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say. What's your benchmark as a mid player? 60 in 10 is pretty much really good in a competitive game. Only really see more if you got stacking in radiant side with something like Tinker or SF.
60 at 10:00 is pretty good in a contested lane considering the maximum (after clearing the 9:30 creeps) is 80.
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EG is great yall are crazy
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FiWiKaKi you are the best, i believe in you.
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On July 20 2014 06:08 Nymzee wrote:
i bet about $400 of stuff on IG
... holy shit am i about to lose everything LOL
you probably didn't + you probably won't
relax 
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On July 20 2014 06:06 Procake wrote:
Has Mirana fallen off as a core now? She seems to be playing more as a support now. C9 aren't even picking her for SingSing now.
Yup all the TI teams collaborating to make merlini look bad.
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On July 20 2014 06:07 Canucklehead wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:05 Mensol wrote:On July 20 2014 06:04 Canucklehead wrote:
Wtf. I'm cheering for IG cause I thought they had the best chance to beat Eg but they just got stomped. I dunno if lgd can beat Eg and DK already got stomped by them so I don't trust them to beat eg now. nice logic. I'm cheering for an all Chinese finals so it comes down to who I think has the best chance to beat Eg cause eg winning ti is a nightmare scenario.
Why would it be a nightmare scenario out of curiosity? :o Do you just really not like EG?
My hope is that dk plays super well and we get a sick nb dk finals though :3
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On July 20 2014 06:08 Nymzee wrote:
i bet about $400 of stuff on IG
... holy shit am i about to lose everything LOL
Damn, I don't think I have more than 15 bucks in dota stuff 
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On July 20 2014 06:09 ramon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:08 Nymzee wrote:
i bet about $400 of stuff on IG
... holy shit am i about to lose everything LOL you probably didn't + you probably won't relax
after that performance i don't know
im sitting here about to cry XD
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a sunstrike whistle would have been a great product
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Orderly line, good job cadets!
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Lol SC mechanics doesn't even transfer well to dota unless you are playing meepo. Biggest part of SC mechanics is multitasking and fast mouse accuracy for microing units.
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On July 20 2014 06:01 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:01 kirsed wrote:On July 20 2014 06:00 DavoS wrote:
Seriously, has carrymancer ever won a game? Cuz it seems like something you draft when you need to lose g2 navi c9 an hour ago? It was mid veno on de-facto 3rd position, not safelane veno.
I was at work for the first 2 games of Navi C9 (Thank God it went to game 3), but yeah, offlane veno is fine because he can find farm in the offlane, which is pretty useful. And he can bully melee mids easily. Why do you need it in safelane? You could get a better hero that needs safer farm and still have a core veno if you need it. Vici wins plenty of games with Veno offlane. Almost nobody wins games with safelane farming veno
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On July 20 2014 06:10 Nymzee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:09 ramon wrote:On July 20 2014 06:08 Nymzee wrote:
i bet about $400 of stuff on IG
... holy shit am i about to lose everything LOL you probably didn't + you probably won't relax after that performance i don't know im sitting here about to cry XD
let me give you a hug because Yao the samurai will beat the shit out of iG.
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On July 20 2014 06:10 juff wrote:
a sunstrike whistle would have been a great product
SUNSTRIKE SOUND EFFECTS
VALVE GET ON IT, STAT
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EPT
