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Please do not continue this racism malarkey. It will be treated as a meme from now on (page 253 onwards). | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
Feel bad for people that bet on IG with those odds | ||
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Kirsed
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:04 TanKLoveR wrote: LGD pulled that performance out of nowhere, nicely played. I dunno that is the same plan they've used for over half of their games. Either invoker gets banned or they pick it and combo off of sunstrike. | ||
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:04 Canucklehead wrote: Wtf. I'm cheering for IG cause I thought they had the best chance to beat Eg but they just got stomped. I dunno if lgd can beat Eg and DK already got stomped by them so I don't trust them to beat eg now. nice logic. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:02 Seraphic wrote: lol mechanical skill = CSing... hahaha But GG to iG. This game 1 was rough lol. YYF got killed so many times I lost count. Maybe I have a different way I look at the game, but that's how I've seen it when I play. Movement and item builds/skill builds is more strategic, and teamfight execution + CS'ing is the mechanical skill. I don't really think that's flawed logic. Coming from a SC background, my last hitting is really good, but I am not good at correct movement, knowing when to gank etc... And SC(BW especially) being a mechanical game, I would think the mechanical skill transfers over more than anything. | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Galtakar
Sweden374 Posts
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
It seems to me that strategic use of abilities and teamplay is more important than having strong mechanics (and there seem to be a lower skill ceiling, mechanically speaking, but that's just from watching). | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote: I didn't mean to make such a big fuss about a point, but I guess how I say things I always get dragged into stuff. I myself am a mid player, I don't normally just spectate one player, and I guess I tunnel vision into CS'ing, that's my strength... But last hit wise he didn't impress me (quite the opposite), that's all I wanted to say. I bet you also get mad at your teammates when you get ganked mid | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:02 FiWiFaKi wrote: Thanks for just trying to shitting on my post opposed to responding to it properly. As far as I know, everything I said everything is correct. No. It's not correct. Your first post cited iG was displaying poor mechanical skill. Thats fine. However, your evaluation wasn't consistent from that point on. When someone responded to you saying that Ferrari was actually winning the cs war heavily 1v1, you then pointed out how "all he is doing is farming". WTF is that? At least respond with something like "he missed some last hits when no one was contesting" or something but when your first response is completely irrelevant to your original claim, it makes you look like a troll or just plain stupid. I don't mind people making claims (even if they are outrageous), but just be consistent with your line of reasoning instead of constantly backtracking on things you have previously said. | ||
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Procake
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:06 Lorizean wrote: So, as a total Dota noob, and people in this thread talking about mechanics, would I be correct in assuming that mechanics are far less important in Dota than, say, SC2? It seems to me that strategic use of abilities and teamplay is more important than having strong mechanics (and there seem to be a lower skill ceiling, mechanically speaking, but that's just from watching). Dota 2 is not as mechanically demanding as sc2 overall, but some heroes are quite a bit harder. A wraith king and a meepo are worlds apart. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:05 lolnoty wrote: I dunno that is the same plan they've used for over half of their games. Either invoker gets banned or they pick it and combo off of sunstrike. Well I meant mostly of how well they played and maintained their advantage. That said, if LGD was THAT good with Invo then I would think iG would know better than to let them have it, they probably didn't consider it as much of a threat?. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
I'm cheering for an all Chinese finals so it comes down to who I think has the best chance to beat Eg cause eg winning ti is a nightmare scenario. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:06 Lorizean wrote: So, as a total Dota noob, and people in this thread talking about mechanics, would I be correct in assuming that mechanics are far less important in Dota than, say, SC2? It seems to me that strategic use of abilities and teamplay is more important than having strong mechanics (and there seem to be a lower skill ceiling, mechanically speaking, but that's just from watching). Mechanics are less important yes. A lot of dota comes down to experience and strategic moves. The different between amazing mechanics and good mechanics doesn't mean as much as the difference between the other aspects. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:03 Numy wrote: What's your benchmark as a mid player? 60 in 10 is pretty much really good in a competitive game. Only really see more if you got stacking in radiant side with something like Tinker or SF. Okay, honestly.... If I had nobody in my lane, just getting to free farm, I'd expect to get 55-57/60, and as such, when DP wasn't being pressured, I would have expected a 95%-98% CS rate. I was just surprised given the circumstance he was closer to 80%. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:05 FiWiFaKi wrote: Maybe I have a different way I look at the game, but that's how I've seen it when I play. Movement and item builds/skill builds is more strategic, and teamfight execution + CS'ing is the mechanical skill. I don't really think that's flawed logic. Coming from a SC background, my last hitting is really good, but I am not good at correct movement, knowing when to gank etc... And SC(BW especially) being a mechanical game, I would think the mechanical skill transfers over more than anything. select is that you? or mr 4k mmr babyknight? what i am trying to say is. mechanical skill doesnt translate like that | ||
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Galtakar
Sweden374 Posts
On July 20 2014 06:06 Lorizean wrote: So, as a total Dota noob, and people in this thread talking about mechanics, would I be correct in assuming that mechanics are far less important in Dota than, say, SC2? It seems to me that strategic use of abilities and teamplay is more important than having strong mechanics (and there seem to be a lower skill ceiling, mechanically speaking, but that's just from watching). Depends on the hero and what time of the game you are in. A far lower need than sc2, yes, but there are a few heroes that can be a bit annoying to learn well. | ||
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