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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:22 Numy wrote: Yea I don't know why people are hating on xboct. He carried them through so many games. BurNing was impressed by that freefarm Alche in grand finals (forget game2 or 3), really say something about xboct, too bad the last game he kinda went into yolo mode. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On August 12 2013 16:27 sumsaR wrote: What's up with the Grand Finals not having any advantage for the Upper Bracket winners by the way? It's a double elim bracket, but the UB winners are at an disadvantage because they don't get that "free loss" the LB winners get. Should have been one game up from the start or something. Some people have been upset with it since 2011. It's now a feature. It won't get removed. How many times do I have to repeat it's not a feature. It was left in due to 'hilarity' factor. Hilarity doesn't mean it isn't bugged. If it was a feature it wouldn't have been banned in the grand finals. On August 13 2013 01:28 Numy wrote: He carried them hard in the Orange series too. His Naix destroyed. For every game Hvost carried hard (which wasn't only due to him) there were many games that he got completely bailed out by his team due to his utterly aggressive play that put them in a terrible position. There were various times he completely disregarded Puppey's calls and strategies. Read some of the post match interviews or watch some of the videos. The one game where they were losing against Tongfu (fountain hooking game) was Hvost completely disregarding Puppey's call to avoid the tri-lane and farm top. I honestly believe that there were various times when Hvost was off, he was really dragging the team down and almost put them in a terrible position. Had it not been for some huge plays from his team, they probably get eliminated in most cases. Hvost certainly played better than he usually does (last TI he was almost a joke), but calling two of his teammates idiots is pretty bad. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:32 superstartran wrote: How many times do I have to repeat it's not a feature. It was left in due to 'hilarity' factor. Hilarity doesn't mean it isn't bugged. If it was a feature it wouldn't have been banned in the grand finals. Source on it being banned in the finals? PUPPEY banned chen 5/5 games so I suppose in a way...  Also you have to repeat it until you realize you are not correct lol. | ||
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CebusFinest
Philippines210 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:44 Sn0_Man wrote: Source on it being banned in the finals? PUPPEY banned chen 5/5 games so I suppose in a way... Also you have to repeat it until you realize you are not correct lol. The Chinese casters said it apparently. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:00 TomatoBisque wrote: The Chinese casters said it apparently. It wasn´t because of fountain hooking itself though, we have no information at all wether Valve changed their stance towards that mechanic. A new visual bug was discovered during the tournament and the play was disallowed because of it. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
also fsadhsjgjdgsdgrgghh damned split pushing strats! | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:05 SKC wrote: It wasn´t because of fountain hooking itself though, we have no information at all wether Valve changed their stance towards that mechanic. A new visual bug was discovered during the tournament and the play was disallowed because of it. Which was bullshit because that's highway robbery to me. Tongfu would have 100% won that game without the fountain hooking. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:25 BurningSera wrote: BurNing was impressed by that freefarm Alche in grand finals (forget game2 or 3), really say something about xboct, too bad the last game he kinda went into yolo mode. We must've been watching different streams or something, 'cause Burning was extremely critical of Hvost's alchemist in G4. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:41 babylon wrote: We must've been watching different streams or something, 'cause Burning was extremely critical of Hvost's alchemist in G4. We must've been reading different posts or something, 'cause BurningSera was refering to game 2 in which xboct showed one of the best farming performances of the entire tournament. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:53 Talron wrote: We must've been reading different posts or something, 'cause BurningSera was refering to game 2 in which xboct showed one of the best farming performances of the entire tournament. No, we were reading the same post. BurningSera wrote "forget game2 or 3," which I thought meant, "I forget what he said Game 2 or 3," and since there wasn't an alchemist in G1, I thought we were talking about G4 and G5. In any case, I agree that the hate directed towards Hvost is a little bit extreme, but it's still a bit ridiculous to cherry pick pro's opinions when they change so much from one game to another (because Hvost's performance also changes drastically from one game to another). | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2013 02:05 SKC wrote: It wasn´t because of fountain hooking itself though, we have no information at all wether Valve changed their stance towards that mechanic. A new visual bug was discovered during the tournament and the play was disallowed because of it. I am sure in the process of fixing the visual bug, they will tighten up the timing on the hook itself and the whole thing will make more sense visually. I don’t think the bug was 100% reliable or that Na’Vi couldn’t make it happen 100% of the time. I think they were just throwing hooks and some of them showed up and others didn’t. I can’t see Valve removing it the interaction between the two abilities, however, since there are plenty of ways to stop it. Plus it is freaking awesome to watch, even if it fails. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:17 BurningSera wrote: Navi: I am not hating but i am sure that puppey knows that one person should leave the team asap and i hope he would give funnik another chance since he has huge potential and it was basically xboct who carried the hell of the team (i know it is unbelievable but his performed out of his mind in this TI), followed by funnik (on the heroes he is good at, which is like 80% of the heroes he played in TI3) and dendi. And then i hope [A] will stay as long as possible because i really want to see when will someone in [A] starts to 'break down' in a team like that, would be very interesting to see how long will Loda's leadership hold them together (dont get me wrong his leadership is a key factor for [A]). and then i dont care about the rest of western teams, EG gets their shit together and synderen maybe it is time to retire to be a caster or whatever. chinese teams zzzz please just go sort out your messes in your circle, you guys have too much issues. Wait... so Navi loses Game 5 of the finals by a hair and they want to make a change to the team? I don't get it. Unless you're getting LoH, or a major team disbands [lgd.int?] ... who the heck (that is somewhat available) is gonna be nearly as good as what funn1k or Kuro bring to the team? | ||
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hyptonic
2155 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:44 FairForever wrote: Wait... so Navi loses Game 5 of the finals by a hair and they want to make a change to the team? I don't get it. Unless you're getting LoH, or a major team disbands [lgd.int?] ... who the heck (that is somewhat available) is gonna be nearly as good as what funn1k or Kuro bring to the team? well for 5,4,3 i guess silent goblak dread NS i can see those cis teams disbanding or them easily leaving for navi | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:44 FairForever wrote: Wait... so Navi loses Game 5 of the finals by a hair and they want to make a change to the team? I don't get it. Unless you're getting LoH, or a major team disbands [lgd.int?] ... who the heck (that is somewhat available) is gonna be nearly as good as what funn1k or Kuro bring to the team? Ars-Art He may not be free currently, but I have no doubt he would drop Virtus pro in a heartbeat. Have you seen the few games VP won? It was basically AA+1 dragging the team to victory. Other than that there aren't many great support players in CIS region(or the west, for that matter) that are currently actually playing support. edit: Not that I think they need to replace someone. Chances are good they would end up with a worse replacement if they try to force it. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:10 hyptonic wrote: well for 5,4,3 i guess silent goblak dread NS i can see those cis teams disbanding or them easily leaving for navi why are you guys talking about replacing someone in navi? most games they lost they mostly did major fuckups as in bad team decisions/actions, not individual fail. that they got outratted in the last game has zero to do with the skill of any of their players. they got close 2nd, why the hell would someone go and call doomsday on them now is really beyond me | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:26 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: why are you guys talking about replacing someone in navi? most games they lost they mostly did major fuckups as in bad team decisions/actions, not individual fail. that they got outratted in the last game has zero to do with the skill of any of their players. they got close 2nd, why the hell would someone go and call doomsday on them now is really beyond me They're responding to: Alexander Dashkevich Жаль, что частенько твоя судьба зависит от парочки бесполезных идиотов... Спасибо за поддержку, но нави вряд ли продолжит свое существование в таком составе;( "Too bad that often your destiny depends on a couple of useless idiots... Thanks for your support, but na'vi doubtly will continue with this roster;(" Which may or may not have been drunk trolling. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
The only thing more stupid is a ridiculous final where one two either starts 1/2 games up or one team has to win twice. I'm glad Valve are smart enough to see how retarded and tournament ruining levels of stupid the latter is, even if they persist with upper/lower bracket in general. | ||
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