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DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
August 11 2013 08:38 GMT
#41
I think HAO is on point with this, idk, tthought about sharing it

So this year's Top four of The International we have two European teams, one Chinese team and one South East Asian team. What do you think is the reason that cause the Asian teams not performing as well as last year's?


HAO:I feel it comes down to preperation, teams did not prepare as much as they should have. Success is reserved to those that prepare. If you prepare more, you will naturally get closer to success. If you do not prepare, then it is all over. The two European made ample preparation and they have a lot of ways to counter the Chinese playstyle, we also do not understand them that well. Finally I think we as Cinese felt that we are the best in the world so we became complacent and did not put much effort into it. However this year's International gave us a whole new outlook so I believe that after getting home from Seattle, we will put more effort into it.

I think he knows they all could have done better.
BUT i still believe its Alliance as the unbeatable force, then The Chinese + Orange+Na'vi, then the whole Western Scene, as a whole,i fell Eastern scene is still on top, BUT in a lot lesser degree that last year's.
I mean, Alliance wins because they're just the closest to perfection, not because they play a strat that no1 understands, in the other hand, we have Na'Vi winning because they snowball or because they Fountain-hook.
I'd Take the Chinese approach over Na'vi's one, but they seriously need to improve for TI4.
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
August 11 2013 08:49 GMT
#42
Is there an exact time which the Grand Finals start? Just so I know what time to set my alarm clock...
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liek
Profile Joined October 2010
Cayman Islands21 Posts
August 11 2013 08:50 GMT
#43
hero alliance will vanquish navi 3-2 sadly but truly. its lebron vs timmy d
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 11 2013 08:52 GMT
#44
On August 11 2013 17:49 Existential wrote:
Is there an exact time which the Grand Finals start? Just so I know what time to set my alarm clock...

not really, but the LB finals broadcast starts in.. 10 hours
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 11 2013 08:55 GMT
#45
china does not need to reshuffle. china needs to open up. unfortunately it faces many outside barriers even if ACE wanted to let it's team roam. visa issues, government meddling, and red tape.
anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
August 11 2013 09:33 GMT
#46
i have work while those games are being played tomorrow. fuck.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 11 2013 09:35 GMT
#47
As a Navi's fan I would love to see my boys taking home the second aegis.

Having said that, I do have to admit that Alliance's performance so far has been nothing but perfection. No matter who the opponent, Alliance always had an answer, from snowball aggression to passive ricing. And as much as I hate seeing my favorite losing, Alliance, among all other teams, deserves to win this International the most.

Enough with serious head-talk.

NAVI GO!
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
August 11 2013 10:15 GMT
#48
My wish for today is: Brewski
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 11 2013 10:20 GMT
#49
This International needs more invoker.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 11 2013 10:23 GMT
#50
I hope we see TongFu fight and show us great games, but ultimately lose in a way that strengthens Na'Vi's morale beyond compare, which leads to Na'Vi edging out the victory in a game 4-5 in the finals.
The Bomber boy
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#51
On August 11 2013 19:23 Wintex wrote:
I hope we see TongFu fight and show us great games, but ultimately lose in a way that strengthens Na'Vi's morale beyond compare, which leads to Na'Vi edging out the victory in a game 4-5 in the finals.

What? Tong Fu is already eliminated.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 11 2013 10:28 GMT
#52
[A] and Orange making it to the Grands is like a dream come true
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hadang
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany941 Posts
August 11 2013 10:41 GMT
#53
I fear for the quality of the grand final, because whatever team Alliance will face they will probably 3:0 them
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 11 2013 10:48 GMT
#54
While I have a lot of sympathy for Alliance, it's going to be really underwhelming if they manage to just stroll to the International title without ever looking like they're in real danger of losing.

Part of me still hopes they get LGD'd in the end.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 11 2013 10:57 GMT
#55
Even though Orange lost to Na'Vi earlier, I really cannot see Na'Vi winning this. They have looked really bad recently, just using gimmicky / cheese strategies and basically hoping that their opponent is not ready for them. This isn't a reliable strategy, and I believe that such strategies are even less viable than usual against Orange, who in my opinion can play with / against the most different kinds of playstyles. Hence I'm guessing that Orange will defeat Na'Vi.

On Orange vs Alliance, I believe that Alliance has the advantage but Orange should be able to defeat them. They saw how DK defeated Alliance and I definitely believe that they have the players that are able to perform a similiar strategy. In addition, it's impossible to ban Mushi out and I'm still hoping for Mushi to play Templar Assassin...
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 11 2013 11:04 GMT
#56
On August 11 2013 12:41 Daaktard wrote:
I have such a hard time seeing Alliance not win the entire thing. I don't want to sound like a retarded fanboy but they just look fucking unbeatable.

Still, DK showed a way. Ban LD and let them pick prophet with a BM or Clock to snipe him off and gain mapcontrol.

I hope that the finals wont be a stomp at least.

Yeah exactly. Bulldog plays so greedy it's ridiculous, super's BM aghs was able to shut him down and the result showed.
no dude, the question
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
August 11 2013 11:08 GMT
#57
On August 11 2013 14:05 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 13:41 opterown wrote:
i'm expecting a lot of roster shuffling and insanely weird drafts. will be interesting to see how the next major chinese tournament shapes up.

also it's about now i'm so glad a certain poster is banned.

well, he would still have to account for his repeated statement that "sea dota is the weakest," and "na'vi is the only one who can stand against alliance."

you can also laugh in his face if orange beats up na'vi and takes games off (or wins!) against alliance.

this is all, of course, contingent on how well orange does tomorrow. :3c


hahah "SEA dota is weakest" man that was good

also
no more TI till next year ;_;
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 11 2013 11:36 GMT
#58
Looking forward to being able to watch the whole day today! Seems like [A] will take the tourney the way they've been playing, what's their record now? 20-1?
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 11 2013 11:42 GMT
#59
What time will the grand finals be played?
no dude, the question
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 11:58:44
August 11 2013 11:58 GMT
#60
Great play by Orange yesterday, I feel that they have a pretty good chance of winning if they can get a high impact hero on Mushi such as QoP or SF. But Orange isn't a one man army, every player always makes huge plays. Looking forward to their matches.
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