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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On August 13 2013 08:32 Jaeger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 08:28 BurningSera wrote:
Well i am gonna say that dont be surprised when kuroky get kicked tomorrow, he is a good player and all (at this stage i am tired on flaming him, and i am definitely cutting him alot of slack due to his performance on Game3) but I'd say if he (and funnik) could be more versatile on playing more heroes, Navi would have given us another different performance throughout TI3 and they would have won Game1 and 4. If there is anything to be learned from bulldog, hero variety is overrated. When you play NP and LD, hero variety is overrated.
And either way, they play that way because they as a team are incredibly strong with those heroes. If they had flawless bounty hunter play it wouldn't make them play bounty hunter any more than they already do.
It's more about strategies working around your players.
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On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro.
You'll see.
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Wait there are no vods of the prelims? wtf... >_<
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On August 13 2013 21:43 mycro wrote:
Wait there are no vods of the prelims? wtf... >_<
They're on the inidividual channels that caster them, like joinDota.
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On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see.
Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are?
This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else.
Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success.
People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't.
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Australia7069 Posts
On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't.
why are you taking the bait
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On August 13 2013 23:53 Kiante wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't. why are you taking the bait
We saw.
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Russian Federation3336 Posts
On August 14 2013 00:22 sumsaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 23:53 Kiante wrote:On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't. why are you taking the bait We saw.
He even quoted "Good bait bro" as one of the comments hehe
But all things taken into account, nothing to kyxy? would that have made it too believable?
Ugh... just watched game 5 ... avoided it all yesterday.. blah some really bad hesitation and panic just tp-ing in front of the dire base... and Na'vi chased puck too much... i think their mentality of kill the opposing mid (which works fantastically early-mid game) didn't turn off quite all the way and they hesitated between rax, puck, and tp... and alliance didn't TP back like they were hoping...
If Na'Vi just get a smidge better with decision-making, they'll be so great... Like if they use buy backs as effectively as [A]... (cause all too often they just buy back and fail to get anything in return... maybe because [A] always gets the most mobile heroes or they just pick their fights that even if they lose, they know they'll have a second chance at a counter attack)
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On August 13 2013 21:49 Tarot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 21:43 mycro wrote:
Wait there are no vods of the prelims? wtf... >_< They're on the inidividual channels that caster them, like joinDota.
Oh, I see. Thanks man.
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On August 14 2013 01:08 mycro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 21:49 Tarot wrote:On August 13 2013 21:43 mycro wrote:
Wait there are no vods of the prelims? wtf... >_< They're on the inidividual channels that caster them, like joinDota. Oh, I see. Thanks man.
You can go to the official page of TI3 and every game is linked directly, either for client view or to youtube, that's very practical.
http://www.dota2.com/international/prelims/schedule/friday/
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On August 14 2013 00:56 Bisu-Fan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 00:22 sumsaR wrote:On August 13 2013 23:53 Kiante wrote:On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't. why are you taking the bait We saw. He even quoted "Good bait bro" as one of the comments hehe But all things taken into account, nothing to kyxy? would that have made it too believable? Ugh... just watched game 5 ... avoided it all yesterday.. blah some really bad hesitation and panic just tp-ing in front of the dire base... and Na'vi chased puck too much... i think their mentality of kill the opposing mid (which works fantastically early-mid game) didn't turn off quite all the way and they hesitated between rax, puck, and tp... and alliance didn't TP back like they were hoping... If Na'Vi just get a smidge better with decision-making, they'll be so great... Like if they use buy backs as effectively as [A]... (cause all too often they just buy back and fail to get anything in return... maybe because [A] always gets the most mobile heroes or they just pick their fights that even if they lose, they know they'll have a second chance at a counter attack)
It could be the language barrier. Remember ever since they had Kky, Na'Vi just can't seem to deal with split push at all.
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On August 14 2013 05:18 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 00:56 Bisu-Fan wrote:On August 14 2013 00:22 sumsaR wrote:On August 13 2013 23:53 Kiante wrote:On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't. why are you taking the bait We saw. He even quoted "Good bait bro" as one of the comments hehe But all things taken into account, nothing to kyxy? would that have made it too believable? Ugh... just watched game 5 ... avoided it all yesterday.. blah some really bad hesitation and panic just tp-ing in front of the dire base... and Na'vi chased puck too much... i think their mentality of kill the opposing mid (which works fantastically early-mid game) didn't turn off quite all the way and they hesitated between rax, puck, and tp... and alliance didn't TP back like they were hoping... If Na'Vi just get a smidge better with decision-making, they'll be so great... Like if they use buy backs as effectively as [A]... (cause all too often they just buy back and fail to get anything in return... maybe because [A] always gets the most mobile heroes or they just pick their fights that even if they lose, they know they'll have a second chance at a counter attack) It could be the language barrier. Remember ever since they had Kky, Na'Vi just can't seem to deal with split push at all.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. They're all expirienced players and something like "I defend top / bot / mid" ain't that hard to understand / say.
Also I find people are nitpicking too much an Na´Vi because of his post. Did you guys forgot who xboct is? He's the proplayer whose troll-level is almost up to par with IceIceIce and that says a lot imo. Also please bear in mind, that just because Na´Vi won TI1 they're not fine with only getting 2nd two times in a row. They obviously wanted to win [who do I need to tell this anyway] And every human gets mad, when he's not getting what he's striving for and so does xboct.
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I watched the first time Dota at TI3 and have to say that i really like it. I never would have thought that a dotatype game ("moba" is hated right  ) could be fun to watch, but dota feels pretty exciting.
But i have one question, is there any infotable about the champs being picked/banned at the event? i really would like to see that and liquipedia doesnt have it if i am not mistaken.
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On August 14 2013 00:56 Bisu-Fan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 00:22 sumsaR wrote:On August 13 2013 23:53 Kiante wrote:On August 13 2013 21:51 Mataza wrote:On August 13 2013 21:40 renfree wrote:On August 13 2013 21:17 gazageiras wrote:On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Good bait bro. You'll see. Maybe you're not as clairvoyant as you think you are? This looks more like your personal wishlist than anything else. Example: If Na'Vi lose kky and ppy, they have 0 drafters. Puppeys drafts are a huge part of their success. People also predicted last year Xboct would be out. He didn't. why are you taking the bait We saw. He even quoted "Good bait bro" as one of the comments hehe But all things taken into account, nothing to kyxy? would that have made it too believable? Ugh... just watched game 5 ... avoided it all yesterday.. blah some really bad hesitation and panic just tp-ing in front of the dire base... and Na'vi chased puck too much... i think their mentality of kill the opposing mid (which works fantastically early-mid game) didn't turn off quite all the way and they hesitated between rax, puck, and tp... and alliance didn't TP back like they were hoping... If Na'Vi just get a smidge better with decision-making, they'll be so great... Like if they use buy backs as effectively as [A]... (cause all too often they just buy back and fail to get anything in return... maybe because [A] always gets the most mobile heroes or they just pick their fights that even if they lose, they know they'll have a second chance at a counter attack)
Navi's mentality: Get kills, win teamfights, outperform the enemy in tactical decision making.
Alliance's mentality: Get buildings, win games, outperform the enemy in strategic decision making.
It's amazing how a team barely formed a year before TI could develop top-notch game plan and strategy. In the 5th game Alliance's decision making just became better the later the game goes, that it screwed up Navi's thought process, they fumbled so much in their team decisions in the last minutes of the game (Xboct ditching a Funnik lasso on Bulldog to try to save a dying Kuroky, then fail and rotate back to see Bulldog killed Funnik is an example).
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On August 14 2013 08:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:I watched the first time Dota at TI3 and have to say that i really like it. I never would have thought that a dotatype game ("moba" is hated right ) could be fun to watch, but dota feels pretty exciting. But i have one question, is there any infotable about the champs being picked/banned at the event? i really would like to see that and liquipedia doesnt have it if i am not mistaken.
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3406-heroes-of-the-international-3
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Can someone provide a link to Chinese vods for the grand finals?
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On August 14 2013 10:56 zgl wrote:
Can someone provide a link to Chinese vods for the grand finals?
You can go to youtube.com/user/dota2/videos , there are vods with chinese commentary
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Pajkatt, Misery and God join Puppey + Kuro to form New World Order 2.0 and they dominate the world of Dota once again!
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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On August 14 2013 11:01 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 10:56 zgl wrote:
Can someone provide a link to Chinese vods for the grand finals? You can go to youtube.com/user/dota2/videos , there are vods with chinese commentary Alternatively:
http://www.dota2.com/international/mainevent/schedule/sunday/
Choose a game, click "View", below the embedded youtube choose "Chinese".
You can also watch all replays in the client and choose the Chinese commentary. By the way, Burning himself is commentating.
On August 14 2013 09:53 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 08:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:I watched the first time Dota at TI3 and have to say that i really like it. I never would have thought that a dotatype game ("moba" is hated right ) could be fun to watch, but dota feels pretty exciting. But i have one question, is there any infotable about the champs being picked/banned at the event? i really would like to see that and liquipedia doesnt have it if i am not mistaken. http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3406-heroes-of-the-international-3 This may be useful too:
http://dotaflame.com/tournament/heroes/-3
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On August 14 2013 19:00 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 20:36 renfree wrote:
Post-TI3 reshuffle:
Na`Vi - Kky+Ppy out;
iG - Zhou, 430, YYF out;
LGD.int - full disband;
Liquid - Korok out;
Dignitas - Universe out;
Zenith - xy- out;
VP - Crazy, Illidan out;
MUFC - fzfz out;
Mouz - Synderen out;
RS - full disband;
Quantic - full disband;
EG - full disband except Fear.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Pajkatt, Misery and God join Puppey + Kuro to form New World Order 2.0 and they dominate the world of Dota once again! I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Once again?
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