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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12077 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 16:40:52
May 13 2016 15:35 GMT
#81
On March 10 2016 11:06 ChunderBoy wrote:
it just matters who u are comparing the 5ks to..
the whole dota population?
the pool of day 1 5kers are like 6.7k+ now not gonna lie about that


I calibrated at 4.7k when it came out. I am now around 5.3k. You have to judge stuff on how much people play as well. I probably played more dota 1 before calibration than I played dota 2 after. I have improved compared to then, I haven't climbed much compared to inflation since I play too little. This means I have improved very little more when compared to the average dota player. Any 7k player now is better than pros were when mmr came out (in pubs at least).
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
May 13 2016 18:25 GMT
#82
She's a strength hero. She has more than enough hp for blade mail to be effective. "Tank" is a word that makes my eyes glaze over. There are like 2 characters in Dota that fit that archetype

Whole point of blade mail is its the quickest second item that makes the largest impact / dmg. It offers everything she needs for cheap.
Leadblast
Profile Joined May 2016
Chile3 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 18:41:56
May 13 2016 18:36 GMT
#83
JUST BEING A STRENGTH HERO DOES NOT MEAN THAT HERO IS A TANK.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 2 HEROES THAT CAN BE TANKS BECAUSE THEIR OWN NATURAL SKILLS ALLOWS THEM TO TANK. LC doesn't.

Blademail is good but only if you can already survive after taking a crapton of damage. There is NO POINT IN GETTING IT OTHERWISE.

UNINSTALL DOTA PLS. Your posts are depressing/insulting me.

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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 13 2016 18:56 GMT
#84
Heres a even better LC guide. Play her in lane like a non terrible human being
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
May 13 2016 18:56 GMT
#85
calling this guy obnoxious is an understatement lol

fromis_9 enjoyer
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 13 2016 21:38 GMT
#86
Isn't the point of blade mail so that you can solo kill a carry regardless of how farmed he is? Assuming of course you are having a decent game.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 21:46:45
May 13 2016 21:43 GMT
#87
On May 14 2016 06:38 DucK- wrote:
Isn't the point of blade mail so that you can solo kill a carry regardless of how farmed he is? Assuming of course you are having a decent game.



Yes, exactly. And you snowball and itemize around duel damage because that is literally difinitive legion commander



I don't know what's going on in these strategy forums lately. I need some of whatever these guys are drinking.

Edit: and I can't believe my first liquid Dota personal attack was in a legion commander jungle guide thread, of all places. It's incredibly fitting to be honest
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 00:17:03
May 14 2016 00:11 GMT
#88
Admittedly, blademail is a lot less attractive for LC since the damage type change. It used to be that you could rely on reflection from your high HP to blow up high agi glass cannons like AM/slark etc.

Now, if they get too big and you don't have an AC etc they can mow right through you without caring. I think she probably came off worst out of all the blademail users.

Piercing BKB is nice, of course, but she lost a lot of damage because her armour:hp ratio is usually poor compared to the heroes she's duelling.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
May 14 2016 00:42 GMT
#89
On May 14 2016 09:11 Belisarius wrote:
Admittedly, blademail is a lot less attractive for LC since the damage type change. It used to be that you could rely on reflection from your high HP to blow up high agi glass cannons like AM/slark etc.

Now, if they get too big and you don't have an AC etc they can mow right through you without caring. I think she probably came off worst out of all the blademail users.

Piercing BKB is nice, of course, but she lost a lot of damage because her armour:hp ratio is usually poor compared to the heroes she's duelling.


yeah but which damage item gives you that amount for 2.2k when you can effectively force your opponent to attack you? I don't even think that armlet is more costefficient in that situation or is it? If you duel a support then armlet might be better, but vs a strong autoattacker core almost certainly not.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Star_Saber
Profile Joined June 2016
Honduras2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 05:21:51
June 03 2016 05:17 GMT
#90
On May 14 2016 09:11 Belisarius wrote:
Admittedly, blademail is a lot less attractive for LC since the damage type change. It used to be that you could rely on reflection from your high HP to blow up high agi glass cannons like AM/slark etc.

Now, if they get too big and you don't have an AC etc they can mow right through you without caring.


Dude, they ALWAYS could mow right thru her without caring. She doesn't get +40 armor from Duel the way Axe gets it from Berserker's Call. Why don't you understand? She's not a tank, and is not meant to be (and NEVER was meant to be) built like one.

Only against extremely fragile carries like Sniper etc. was Blademail EVER an option. And that is, an OPTION. Never a part of her core items like the regular LC pubbers are fond of.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 03 2016 06:18 GMT
#91
uh ur buying blademail for the damage, not because ur a "tank"
there's no other cheap item that gives nearly as much damage to cores as blademail during duel

the damage type change on blademail was honestly a pretty big nerf to lc
pre-patch u could duel kill pretty much every carry lategame cus they'd just kill themselves on blademail
so u were free to go utility items like refresher, force, etc
but now u actually have to build damage to keep up lategame

also duel got nerfed so u can't attack through hex or ethereal any more which kind of sucks
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 12:15:46
June 03 2016 12:14 GMT
#92
The point of legion is to kill people during duel. So blade mail is the most cost effective item, even after nerfs.


There's no 2200 gold item that offers as much when blade mail comes online. Maybe armlet in some cases

Edit: and what's with 1 post account personal attacks, "what don't you get?!" Kind of thing? It doesn't belong here.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 03 2016 16:47 GMT
#93
Leadblast. Starsaber. Pretty sure same person, used to post similar stuff in pd then
Star_Saber
Profile Joined June 2016
Honduras2 Posts
June 03 2016 23:18 GMT
#94
On June 03 2016 15:18 Dead9 wrote:
uh ur buying blademail for the damage, not because ur a "tank"


NO. When you want damage you buy damage items. Blademail is bought for the RETURN DAMAGE active. noob.

there's no other cheap item that gives nearly as much damage to cores as blademail during duel


Yeah, unfortunately Blademail does NOT help winning Duels in most cases. What good is Blademail if you're dying anyway? Only against fragile carries that can't really take it as well as they give it (eg. Sniper, as I noted previously).

read before you post shit.

the damage type change on blademail was honestly a pretty big nerf to lc


Dude, no decent LC player cares or cared, ever. Blademail on her was always SITUATIONAL at best. AT BEST.

pre-patch u could duel kill pretty much every carry lategame cus they'd just kill themselves on blademail


Dude, I say it again: only against certain carries, and that's depending on their farm anyway. Cus if you wanna face it against a Sniper with MKB + Daedalus + Satanic and you go Blademailing on him he's probably gonna activate his Satanic and chew you regardless.

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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 04 2016 00:34 GMT
#95
u know duel forces a hero to attack u right
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 04 2016 00:38 GMT
#96
On June 04 2016 09:34 Dead9 wrote:
u know duel forces a hero to attack u right

I think he thinks that you meant that LC should buy blademail for the +dmg value it adds to auto attacks.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
June 04 2016 00:50 GMT
#97
tbh even just for the stats i doubt theres an item in the price range other than armlet that competes

obviously uh you want to use blademail when you duel
Rutabella
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2 Posts
June 14 2016 19:44 GMT
#98
hello, kind of new to the forums here. just wondering if anyone could tell me the most efficient farm pattern for the radiant jungle?

I think I have the dire jungle down pat since it is less of an open space, and you can essentially just go through all three medium and large camps on the right hand side in a triangular pattern and get really good farm.

but the radiant jungle is much more open, and i'm not sure which pattern is the best.
What the hell magina?
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
June 14 2016 20:44 GMT
#99
^ the ones on the left hand side of the radiant jungle is basically the mirror of the ones on the right hand side of the dire, so perhaps there. cutting off the trees between the large and medium camp will help speed up your way.
fromis_9 enjoyer
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 14 2016 23:08 GMT
#100
On June 15 2016 04:44 Rutabella wrote:
hello, kind of new to the forums here. just wondering if anyone could tell me the most efficient farm pattern for the radiant jungle?

I think I have the dire jungle down pat since it is less of an open space, and you can essentially just go through all three medium and large camps on the right hand side in a triangular pattern and get really good farm.

but the radiant jungle is much more open, and i'm not sure which pattern is the best.

Laning is better than jungling. The optimal LC farm pattern is in lane
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