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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 06 2011 17:41 GMT
#481
Are there any recent guides to Zeus and other heroes? The ones I've found are from 2006~2008, I don't know if the game has changed enough for them to still be relevant.

Also, is there a place where I can know the timings when I should have certain items if I'm going to X strategy? I don't know how well I'm doing in my games because I don't know if the time I'm able to create an Aghanin is too late or if I'm okay for a beginner...
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 06 2011 19:31 GMT
#482
Zeus, just watch any game with Merlini or a Russian player; or just read Merlini's guide. I never figured out why Russians valued Zeus as ban worthy until I saw them with it.

And no, Zeus is still the same as before, his play style hasn't changed except maybe the incorporation of Force Staff into some builds, I don't like Arcane Boots on him but it works just as well. There is a change to his Chain Lightning from before so you could or should level it from 1 over stats.

Timings depend on effectiveness and the question you should always ask is if the item you are getting will be useful by the time you get it. Funnily enough, Aghs is one of those items where the timings for it are weird and highly variable.
Get it by your hands...
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#483
On October 07 2011 04:31 Judicator wrote:
Zeus, just watch any game with Merlini or a Russian player; or just read Merlini's guide. I never figured out why Russians valued Zeus as ban worthy until I saw them with it.

And no, Zeus is still the same as before, his play style hasn't changed except maybe the incorporation of Force Staff into some builds, I don't like Arcane Boots on him but it works just as well. There is a change to his Chain Lightning from before so you could or should level it from 1 over stats.

Timings depend on effectiveness and the question you should always ask is if the item you are getting will be useful by the time you get it. Funnily enough, Aghs is one of those items where the timings for it are weird and highly variable.



Yeah, I didn't mean changes in the hero, I actually saw someone mention an arcane ring, which I couldn't find, so I guess it was removed.

I realize the Aghanin is kinda of weird, but it was just an example, I was more worried about some other items like Empty Bottle, arcane boots, etc
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 06 2011 23:17 GMT
#484
On October 07 2011 05:49 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 04:31 Judicator wrote:
Zeus, just watch any game with Merlini or a Russian player; or just read Merlini's guide. I never figured out why Russians valued Zeus as ban worthy until I saw them with it.

And no, Zeus is still the same as before, his play style hasn't changed except maybe the incorporation of Force Staff into some builds, I don't like Arcane Boots on him but it works just as well. There is a change to his Chain Lightning from before so you could or should level it from 1 over stats.

Timings depend on effectiveness and the question you should always ask is if the item you are getting will be useful by the time you get it. Funnily enough, Aghs is one of those items where the timings for it are weird and highly variable.



Yeah, I didn't mean changes in the hero, I actually saw someone mention an arcane ring, which I couldn't find, so I guess it was removed.

I realize the Aghanin is kinda of weird, but it was just an example, I was more worried about some other items like Empty Bottle, arcane boots, etc


Well look usually the quicker you can more expensive items, the better, but that's not always the case. It's a fair rule of thumb though.
Get it by your hands...
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#485
On October 07 2011 05:49 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 04:31 Judicator wrote:
Zeus, just watch any game with Merlini or a Russian player; or just read Merlini's guide. I never figured out why Russians valued Zeus as ban worthy until I saw them with it.

And no, Zeus is still the same as before, his play style hasn't changed except maybe the incorporation of Force Staff into some builds, I don't like Arcane Boots on him but it works just as well. There is a change to his Chain Lightning from before so you could or should level it from 1 over stats.

Timings depend on effectiveness and the question you should always ask is if the item you are getting will be useful by the time you get it. Funnily enough, Aghs is one of those items where the timings for it are weird and highly variable.



Yeah, I didn't mean changes in the hero, I actually saw someone mention an arcane ring, which I couldn't find, so I guess it was removed.

I realize the Aghanin is kinda of weird, but it was just an example, I was more worried about some other items like Empty Bottle, arcane boots, etc


Well look usually the quicker you can more expensive items, the better, but that's not always the case. It's a fair rule of thumb though.
Get it by your hands...
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
October 09 2011 05:19 GMT
#486
Is there a limit you can have for wards in Dota 2?
Or can you have/place down as much as you want like in LoL?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#487
On October 09 2011 14:19 iloveroo wrote:
Is there a limit you can have for wards in Dota 2?
Or can you have/place down as much as you want like in LoL?

yes.

for observer wards the store can only stock 2 at once, you get 2 wards for 200 gold (1 stock). it refills 1 stock every 6 minutes.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
October 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#488
On October 09 2011 14:19 iloveroo wrote:
Is there a limit you can have for wards in Dota 2?
Or can you have/place down as much as you want like in LoL?


Store only has 2 sets (4) wards at a time, and the item is on a 6minute cooldown. Wards last 6 minutes as well.

You can place all the wards you've saved up at once if you'd like, but usually it's 2-4 wards on the map at once for each team.

You can get as many sentry (truesight) wards as you can afford though.

http://www.playdota.com/items/observer-wards
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12168 Posts
October 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#489
Which is the worst hero in the current version of DotA? Axe?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 09 2011 09:29 GMT
#490
On October 09 2011 18:14 Yurie wrote:
Which is the worst hero in the current version of DotA? Axe?

" There are no bad heroes in Dota , there are ony bad players"

I'd personally go with Syllabear, but that's very subjective.
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Scheefe
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands226 Posts
October 09 2011 09:35 GMT
#491
Syllabear really? Considering he is Wildsoul in HoN you woulnd think so lol.
Care to explain why you think its sylla xD?
Your hero is standing at a bad posistion and deserved to die.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 09 2011 09:41 GMT
#492
Coz I can't play heroes that have 2 inventories Also He's very hard to control well(relative to other heroes), is made of paper early on, is EXTREMELY farm dependant and very easy to gank.
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 09 2011 09:46 GMT
#493
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 09 2011 09:51 GMT
#494
On October 09 2011 18:46 Dattish wrote:
with the correct supports, sylla is a goddamn beast.(pun intended)

Evryone can go beastmode with Good suport, I feel he needs more of it than other pure carries (what else he can do?), also controlling the bear AND self (made of paper, like 3 nukes and you dead :/) during fights is key. I went with Sylla because he gives bad skill/effect outcome (like how good you are/ how good you do in equal skill enviroment)

As I said its very personal, there are no bad heroes in dota, I might just not be the player Sylla needs to shine
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 09 2011 10:37 GMT
#495
Syllabear is super popular in competitive play though, especially with the top Chinese teams. I don't think he's a bad hero; he is harder to play than many other heroes however.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#496
On October 09 2011 18:29 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 18:14 Yurie wrote:
Which is the worst hero in the current version of DotA? Axe?

" There are no bad heroes in Dota , there are ony bad players"

I'd personally go with Syllabear, but that's very subjective.

hes hardly the worst hero because its common to see him picked/banned in china and always occasionally comes up. he takes a lot of skill to play properly

<3 sylla

i'd probably say tuskar or slark.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
October 09 2011 10:55 GMT
#497
Worst heroes is Techies. How is this even a debate?

The entire hero is countered by Gem.
wat
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 09 2011 10:56 GMT
#498
Gondar
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 09 2011 11:58 GMT
#499
Watching streams as a LoL player, I can't seem to figure out how the tower AI works. When will it attack heroes? Will towers attack you if you are the closest enemy unit to them like sc2 units do? Or am I missing something...
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
blueclancer
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 12:03:57
October 09 2011 12:02 GMT
#500
im confused... dota 2 is using the characters title as their name... venomancer... drow ranger... what about tauren chieftain and naga siren? what will become of these heros which are clearly characters from warcraft given the game is now being produced by valve?

also LAN-f34r the towers in lol will always attack creeps in range before heros... however unlike in dota spells and attacks on an enemy hero will cause them to focus on you
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