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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
September 02 2012 10:32 GMT
#3521
I have a noobie question aside from the game itself:
After a few matches I got some "boxes", that are called #dota_item_of_the_challenger/champions
The tooltip says, that there could be different items in there. How do I open these? Do I have to play with the hero that is mentioned? Or what is this?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Deleted User 281514
Profile Joined August 2012
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 12:07:31
September 02 2012 12:06 GMT
#3522
Stealing bear is currently disabled. However you can steal True Form from LD & it works (you don't get the health bonus from synergy though).

Your "boxes/chests" can be opened with KEYS purchased via the in-game store. They do indeed contain various different items.
Technique is what you fall back on when you run out of inspiration
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 02 2012 12:14 GMT
#3523
I'd swear that just last week I saw a Rubick steal a bear, can't remember where I saw it. It was definitely recently though. Could've been an old replay.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 02 2012 12:26 GMT
#3524
On September 02 2012 21:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'd swear that just last week I saw a Rubick steal a bear, can't remember where I saw it. It was definitely recently though. Could've been an old replay.


I'm pretty sure it was a game in The International. There was a bear vs bear standoff in mid for some time. Afaik the Rubick CAN put items on his bear and if he loses the spell those items are gone until he manages to steal it again and re-summon it.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
September 02 2012 13:17 GMT
#3525
On September 02 2012 21:26 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 21:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'd swear that just last week I saw a Rubick steal a bear, can't remember where I saw it. It was definitely recently though. Could've been an old replay.


I'm pretty sure it was a game in The International. There was a bear vs bear standoff in mid for some time. Afaik the Rubick CAN put items on his bear and if he loses the spell those items are gone until he manages to steal it again and re-summon it.


Yup I remember this game. Bear with no items is,not nearly as useful as a itemized bear tho. But it was really fun to watch.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 02 2012 16:04 GMT
#3526
On September 02 2012 19:32 Geisterkarle wrote:
I have a noobie question aside from the game itself:
After a few matches I got some "boxes", that are called #dota_item_of_the_challenger/champions
The tooltip says, that there could be different items in there. How do I open these? Do I have to play with the hero that is mentioned? Or what is this?

Gotta buy keys for like $2-3 to open them haha. Treasure chests galore....
:)
TangyOrange
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore87 Posts
September 02 2012 16:21 GMT
#3527
How do you disassemble?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12132 Posts
September 02 2012 16:23 GMT
#3528
On September 03 2012 01:21 TangyOrange wrote:
How do you disassemble?


Right click the item and left click the option for it. This isn't possible for all items.
Deleted User 281514
Profile Joined August 2012
68 Posts
September 02 2012 16:50 GMT
#3529
- Helm of the Dominator
- Arcane boots
- Tranquil boots
- Perserverance
- Ethereal Blade
- Sange & Yasha
- Manta Style
- Ring of Basilius
- Ring of Aquila
- Mjollnir (maelstrom cannot be disassembled though)

A common trick is the arcane/tranquil boots for supports. You get tranquil boots & energy orb and can leisurely swap from tranquil boots to arcane boots when they're off cooldown.
Technique is what you fall back on when you run out of inspiration
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
September 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#3530
So, I'm a noob, and because of that I've decided to play bot games instead of feeding in real 5v5 games. Believe me, I've tried 5v5 and at best I go even. However I find that I stomp hard mode bots and go fairly even in unfair bots.

Should I keep playing bot games until I stomp unfair bots or just jump in now?

Also, how do parties work? If you're in a party, does the matchmaking match you up with other parties like in LoL?

Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:20:40
September 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#3531
On September 03 2012 10:15 Thienan567 wrote:
So, I'm a noob, and because of that I've decided to play bot games instead of feeding in real 5v5 games. Believe me, I've tried 5v5 and at best I go even. However I find that I stomp hard mode bots and go fairly even in unfair bots.

Should I keep playing bot games until I stomp unfair bots or just jump in now?

Also, how do parties work? If you're in a party, does the matchmaking match you up with other parties like in LoL?



I suggest to play what you have fun with. there are a lot of newbies in mm so you'll get matched fairly after a couple of games afaik.

Yes they do, sometimes you can get 2+3 or 1+4 against 5 when there are not too many ppl playing.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#3532
Can you swap in RD? If so, how?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 03 2012 06:30 GMT
#3533
On September 03 2012 15:00 kushm4sta wrote:
Can you swap in RD? If so, how?


After picks are done, bring up scoreboard, click the name of the person you want to swap with. There's a trade option in the context menu.

Only mode you can't swap in is SD.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
September 03 2012 09:07 GMT
#3534
Hi ,

Can some1 pls explain me the mindset when it comes to early game laning and use of teleports ?
I come from LOL ( 2k games ) and this aspect of game is curently most confusing to me ..... as i'm used to ''blue pill'' and walk back fast - since map is smaller.

None of champion guides state that Teleport scroll should be purchased as starting item. ( How many scrolls should i purchase per game average , ofc it dipends on game and strat , but in general ?)
3X green tree eating things barely provide sustain in lane compared to dmg that enemy skills / mobs or acidental tower hits dish out. aka how should i sustain myself in lane porperly ?
Scenario - i got hit by enemy skils and left with 100 hp pre lv6 ( No tp scroll no hp pots/fruits ) - what should be my actions in dota 2 ?

Thnx in advance
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 03 2012 09:11 GMT
#3535
On September 03 2012 10:15 Thienan567 wrote:
So, I'm a noob, and because of that I've decided to play bot games instead of feeding in real 5v5 games. Believe me, I've tried 5v5 and at best I go even. However I find that I stomp hard mode bots and go fairly even in unfair bots.

Should I keep playing bot games until I stomp unfair bots or just jump in now?

Also, how do parties work? If you're in a party, does the matchmaking match you up with other parties like in LoL?



I didn't play a single bot game beyond going to test some mechanics every once in a while for a few minutes and went straight to multiplayer, forces you to learn quicker. I only had couple terrible games and then I either started carrying my own weight or got set to more appropriate match making.

Jump in to multiplayer unless if you honestly enjoy playing vs bots...

I didn't play LoL but I think parties can go against pub teams in DotA, not entirely sure though.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
September 03 2012 09:37 GMT
#3536
Does anyone know how they game chooses the captain in cm? Somehow I'm captain like 90% of the time, which is kinda annoying because sometimes I just wanna chill and let someone else draft^^
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
September 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#3537
On September 03 2012 18:07 NightWalks wrote:
Hi ,

Can some1 pls explain me the mindset when it comes to early game laning and use of teleports ?
I come from LOL ( 2k games ) and this aspect of game is curently most confusing to me ..... as i'm used to ''blue pill'' and walk back fast - since map is smaller.

None of champion guides state that Teleport scroll should be purchased as starting item. ( How many scrolls should i purchase per game average , ofc it dipends on game and strat , but in general ?)
3X green tree eating things barely provide sustain in lane compared to dmg that enemy skills / mobs or acidental tower hits dish out. aka how should i sustain myself in lane porperly ?
Scenario - i got hit by enemy skils and left with 100 hp pre lv6 ( No tp scroll no hp pots/fruits ) - what should be my actions in dota 2 ?

Thnx in advance


Never start with a teleport scroll as it is better to spend on items that will help you in lane. After you have boots and a few other items you should be carry a teleport scroll most of the time no matter what hero you are. Supports will get to help defend lanes, or carries will get so they can push a lane deep and then teleport away safely to farm somewhere else.

Sometimes you might want to get a tp scroll before you have a lot of items if you think that the enemy team will try and dive one of your friends at a tower, or if you want to do a surprise gank on someone.

In regards to regeneration items, 3xTangos is a lot to buy. Most people get away with 1 tango + salve or 2 tangoes. If you are getting harassed a lot it may be because you are on a difficult lane, or they spent all their mana for it in which case after healing up you are safe.

In the scenario you stated, it is usually best to go back to base and heal up.


On the stealing Summon Spirit Bear with Rubick convo from above, Puppey actually stole it today from Zhou in game 3. One thing to note is that not only does the bear not have items, but it does not gain the synergy bonus as well .
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 12:34:58
September 03 2012 12:28 GMT
#3538
Scenario: you are rubick and steal bear, I would think the bear then stays indefinitely unless rubick or the bear dies. What if you put items on it? are they still there if you steal the bear again?

and: if you have scepter on rubick and steal a ult, does this profit from scepter?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 03 2012 12:38 GMT
#3539
On September 03 2012 21:28 StoRm_res wrote:
Scenario: you are rubick and steal bear, I would think the bear then stays indefinitely unless rubick or the bear dies. What if you put items on it? are they still there if you steal the bear again?

and: if you have scepter on rubick and steal a ult, does this profit from scepter?

Bear stays until rubick steals another spell or dies. Items will appear next time you summon.

I do not know about having your own scepter but if the hero you steal the spell from has a scepter then your spell will be upgraded top.
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Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 03 2012 12:43 GMT
#3540
On September 03 2012 19:59 The Great Taste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 18:07 NightWalks wrote:
Hi ,

Can some1 pls explain me the mindset when it comes to early game laning and use of teleports ?
I come from LOL ( 2k games ) and this aspect of game is curently most confusing to me ..... as i'm used to ''blue pill'' and walk back fast - since map is smaller.

None of champion guides state that Teleport scroll should be purchased as starting item. ( How many scrolls should i purchase per game average , ofc it dipends on game and strat , but in general ?)
3X green tree eating things barely provide sustain in lane compared to dmg that enemy skills / mobs or acidental tower hits dish out. aka how should i sustain myself in lane porperly ?
Scenario - i got hit by enemy skils and left with 100 hp pre lv6 ( No tp scroll no hp pots/fruits ) - what should be my actions in dota 2 ?

Thnx in advance


Never start with a teleport scroll as it is better to spend on items that will help you in lane. After you have boots and a few other items you should be carry a teleport scroll most of the time no matter what hero you are. Supports will get to help defend lanes, or carries will get so they can push a lane deep and then teleport away safely to farm somewhere else.

Sometimes you might want to get a tp scroll before you have a lot of items if you think that the enemy team will try and dive one of your friends at a tower, or if you want to do a surprise gank on someone.

In regards to regeneration items, 3xTangos is a lot to buy. Most people get away with 1 tango + salve or 2 tangoes. If you are getting harassed a lot it may be because you are on a difficult lane, or they spent all their mana for it in which case after healing up you are safe.

In the scenario you stated, it is usually best to go back to base and heal up.


On the stealing Summon Spirit Bear with Rubick convo from above, Puppey actually stole it today from Zhou in game 3. One thing to note is that not only does the bear not have items, but it does not gain the synergy bonus as well .

To clarify, I think he meant that the tango comes with 3 charges. Each charge heals for 115hp, so that's 345hp total. Tangos are used to heal up from minor harassment; in the early game it heals you for ~15% of your hp. Unless you're standing under a tower, facetanking creeps or facing heavy harassment, 3 tangos and 1 salve should be enough for all of your regen during the early game.
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