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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7063 Posts
March 28 2017 17:51 GMT
#24601
On March 29 2017 01:20 kaykaykay wrote:
was watching dota2 again after months of not playing, is Lina really a viable mid carry now?


she's only really been a thing for DAC, her talent buffs the last few patches have made people start picking her
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-28 18:19:03
March 28 2017 18:18 GMT
#24602
She's appearing more or less out of the dumpster / niche status in a long time.

e: diddn't read next page my bad
passive quaranstream fan
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-30 11:15:04
March 30 2017 11:12 GMT
#24603
Why do aghs scepters given to allies by an alchemist give +200 hp and +150 mana instead of the +175 hp and +175 mana that is stated on a normal aghs?
I carry hard!
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
March 30 2017 12:29 GMT
#24604
Prolly because they changed aghs @6.87 from 200/150 to 175/175 and icetoad just forgot to either change the tooltip or the actual gains from the given aghs.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7063 Posts
March 30 2017 17:14 GMT
#24605
It gives the correct stats (+175/175 HP/Mana), the tooltip is just out of date.
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 01 2017 09:39 GMT
#24606
why do ppl take the spell amp talent on mag when it doesnt improve empower
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 01 2017 09:46 GMT
#24607
If u dont intend to build right click at all and plan to build items like blink force shiva refresher instead of Daedalus and stuff u are not going to get a lot out of +25 ias. Im not entirely sure if the spell amp enough to push shockwave above some threshold where u can oneshot certain creeps to make u farm faster but overall its really high % for lvl 10 talent.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
April 01 2017 13:42 GMT
#24608
+25 AS or +45 dmg Shockwave, if you're pos 3 you won't be big enough to sit in a fight and might not even look towards rightclick until after your first three items.
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
April 01 2017 13:45 GMT
#24609
Power treads + 25 attack speed talent > arcane boots + 15% spell amp
Right click helps you farm so much faster than shockwave ever will. Even with +15% spell amp you still don't 1 hit a creep wave with shockwave.
I carry hard!
SKNielsen1989
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
174 Posts
April 01 2017 16:27 GMT
#24610
are we talking about real dota or 2k games where pos 3 magnus has all the time and space in the world to run around and right click creeps?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 01 2017 21:22 GMT
#24611
On April 01 2017 22:45 bdonballer wrote:
Power treads + 25 attack speed talent > arcane boots + 15% spell amp
Right click helps you farm so much faster than shockwave ever will. Even with +15% spell amp you still don't 1 hit a creep wave with shockwave.

the treads echo build isnt the build for every game
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
April 02 2017 04:48 GMT
#24612
Help

Why can't I win anymore.

This is happening over 3 different accounts that were stable for years.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/215771281
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
April 02 2017 08:36 GMT
#24613
On April 02 2017 13:48 ihatevideogames wrote:
Help

Why can't I win anymore.

This is happening over 3 different accounts that were stable for years.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/215771281

There are a variety of possible problems: attitude, exhaustion, you not learning at the same rate as everyone else, mental tilt, poor concentration, bad hero picks. Hard to say without more information.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12021 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-02 17:56:57
April 02 2017 17:50 GMT
#24614
Hero picks for your team looked strange in 3 of the 4 games I checked. There isn't enough lanes and farm space for the heroes picked.

Secondly you are making things hard for yourself by picking weaker heroes. They aren't garbage tier but not strong either.

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

Thirdly I parsed a game for you at opendota. You can see that you had 0 denies at min 10 while laning.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/performances

You used infest 10 times in a 66 min game.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/casts
You had two initiators to be inside of. You could even grab an ancient to close in and then pop out since you didn't get blink dagger. Your team in this game has 2 gankers in storm and LC, you should be inside of one of them a lot of the time to make that a dual gank that can add spectre if needed.
According to https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/teamfights you were in 1 team fight before 45 min as an early active hero.

Compare your stats to a higher rated game at roughly half duration and especially casts tells things.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3093830436/casts
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 07:20:40
April 03 2017 07:14 GMT
#24615
On April 03 2017 02:50 Yurie wrote:
Hero picks for your team looked strange in 3 of the 4 games I checked. There isn't enough lanes and farm space for the heroes picked.

Secondly you are making things hard for yourself by picking weaker heroes. They aren't garbage tier but not strong either.

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

Thirdly I parsed a game for you at opendota. You can see that you had 0 denies at min 10 while laning.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/performances

You used infest 10 times in a 66 min game.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/casts
You had two initiators to be inside of. You could even grab an ancient to close in and then pop out since you didn't get blink dagger. Your team in this game has 2 gankers in storm and LC, you should be inside of one of them a lot of the time to make that a dual gank that can add spectre if needed.
According to https://www.opendota.com/matches/3090409996/teamfights you were in 1 team fight before 45 min as an early active hero.

Compare your stats to a higher rated game at roughly half duration and especially casts tells things.
https://www.opendota.com/matches/3093830436/casts


While many of these games I was so tilted by the endless loss streak I purposefully didn't try to win, I think it might be a meta thing.
I always was a passive/farmy player and this meta is the anti-me. I can't even achieve my pre-7.00 cs quota on the new map.

But then again, it actually took many games of me actually trying and playing to win to finally say 'Fuck it, I'll afk jungle like all those retards the last 10 games'.

Edit: I checked the 0 deny game, it was an impossible lane matchup. If you check, I had 5 cs at 5 min. Afk jungler in team made sure the lane was lost before the game even began and the jungle was occupied.
Notice how our mid solo-died to PA 5 times in 8 minutes?

And that was one of the less stompy games. Last 3-4 games have been complete stomps and I seem unable to do anything about it.
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 16:31:42
April 03 2017 16:31 GMT
#24616
If you can't win on 3 accounts look at yourself. Surely it can't always be your teammates. Tilt less and only show up to WINNABLE fights. If its an unwinnable fight secure farm elsewhere and it will help your team later. They might get mad at you for not coming to help, but just know inside that it is the right decision. Pick heroes that have ability to farm without any teammates help if you have to fall back to jungle. I also suggest iron talon on all melee heroes as it helps you farm so much faster. You can farm wave and then jungle, rinse and repeat. Focusing on your own play will help you more than looking at your dumbass teammates. Let their deaths across the map create space for your own farm so you can carry them inevitably in the end.
I carry hard!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12021 Posts
April 03 2017 18:29 GMT
#24617
On April 04 2017 01:31 bdonballer wrote:
If you can't win on 3 accounts look at yourself. Surely it can't always be your teammates. Tilt less and only show up to WINNABLE fights. If its an unwinnable fight secure farm elsewhere and it will help your team later. They might get mad at you for not coming to help, but just know inside that it is the right decision. Pick heroes that have ability to farm without any teammates help if you have to fall back to jungle. I also suggest iron talon on all melee heroes as it helps you farm so much faster. You can farm wave and then jungle, rinse and repeat. Focusing on your own play will help you more than looking at your dumbass teammates. Let their deaths across the map create space for your own farm so you can carry them inevitably in the end.


I think he might have taken that ideal too far. Not showing up to fights unless he happens to be where it occurs. Thus missing winnable fights and the enemy slowly wins the game. If this is the case I would suggest playing a roaming position 4 to get a feeling for how to create fight opportunities and when they are bad or good (so he can join from a core role).

I have not watched any actual replays though because this is the simple answer thread and thus I am not spending a ton of time on it.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
April 04 2017 16:32 GMT
#24618
Ok, WTF is going on?

4th time now I've seen an antimage skipping battlefury. They simply don't build it. And they lose, too, because they want to farm, still, which makes zero sense with a fighting build but what can you do.

So who put this "new build" in the heads of the kids in my games?
Resistance ain't futile
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 04 2017 16:33 GMT
#24619
Miracle all-star game performance no doubt
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
April 04 2017 18:06 GMT
#24620
But they don't even get phase or atos...
Resistance ain't futile
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