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iET
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway40 Posts
October 06 2015 12:20 GMT
#23001
can you dogde zeus ult with manta?
MKP
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 12:42:33
October 06 2015 12:29 GMT
#23002
On October 06 2015 21:20 ahswtini wrote:
pretty sure u were mistaken, nothing reveals slark thru his ult. do u have a match id

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1845765292

I fucking threw that game by going basher before mkb and not realising soon enough that I could and had to purge track with Q

I'm 99.9% sure they could see me though ult (I didn't get the movespeed bonus/regen while under the effect of my ult). Track now gives vision of the target instead of vision around. I'm pretty sure it reveals Slark through ult because they copied the mechanic from Bloodseeker Thirst (which was the only thing that did before 6.85), and if they did that, I'd guess Disruptor's Thunderstrike does the same since it had the same change in 6.85.
Romanes eunt domus
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 06 2015 12:48 GMT
#23003
On October 06 2015 21:20 iET wrote:
can you dogde zeus ult with manta?

you should be able to

---

i cant download replays at my current location, hopefully someone else can look into that slark mystery
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
October 06 2015 14:02 GMT
#23004
It's a bug, I reproduced it and already posted on dev.dota2.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
October 06 2015 17:28 GMT
#23005
What makes mostly a random player have 60% winrate on radiant and 42% on dire? shere random? 200 games for statistics so it should be enough to even out....
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 06 2015 17:31 GMT
#23006
I believe that there were statistics showing stacks as more likely to end up on one side compared to smaller groups or solo queuers.

Also stuff like a poor understanding of how to abuse rosh, a better understanding of how to be efficient in one jungle, pure luck (200 games isn't really THAT high) etc
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 06 2015 17:57 GMT
#23007
Radiant/Dire advantages balance out across the hero pool, but a player who plays certain heroes more often than others will skew themselves toward heroes that utilize one or the other better. Correspondingly, they could get better at abusing the advantages of one side over the other.

For example, if you always play Storm/TA/SF/etc. you'll naturally get comfortable on Radiant due to the advantage of the Radiant jungle for early game farming. Conversely if you always play Lycan/Ursa/Huskar/etc. the Dire Roshan advantage will be more relevant in your games than it is in the average case.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 06 2015 19:05 GMT
#23008
On October 06 2015 23:02 makmeatt wrote:
It's a bug, I reproduced it and already posted on dev.dota2.

nice, sry for doubting u bob
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
October 06 2015 19:36 GMT
#23009
On October 07 2015 04:05 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 23:02 makmeatt wrote:
It's a bug, I reproduced it and already posted on dev.dota2.

nice, sry for doubting u bob

No worries, my first reaction was identical. My advantage here is that I could fire up the client soon after.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 21:07:54
October 06 2015 21:04 GMT
#23010
Its fine

Hopefully its really a bug and not intentional, it was really fucking annoying to play against.

edit: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=182780
Apparently it does indeed work with Thunderstrike too, definitely a bug then.
Romanes eunt domus
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 07 2015 08:54 GMT
#23011
apparently it doesnt work with bloodseeker thirst (which also only reveals the hero and not the surrounding area)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
October 07 2015 11:02 GMT
#23012
Huh that's fucking weird, I thought it was the only thing that was supposed to see slark through his ult even pre 6.85.
Romanes eunt domus
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
October 07 2015 16:19 GMT
#23013
I don't think anything at all is "supposed" to see slark in his ult.

"Anything at all" is a dangerous phrase in dota though, so I imagine we'll find out shortly if I'm wrong.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
October 07 2015 16:53 GMT
#23014
On October 08 2015 01:19 Belisarius wrote:
I don't think anything at all is "supposed" to see slark in his ult.

"Anything at all" is a dangerous phrase in dota though, so I imagine we'll find out shortly if I'm wrong.

I was thinking this aswell, Slark ulti "suppose to be" the one that lets u invisible no matter what.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
October 07 2015 17:48 GMT
#23015
you're not 'invisible' - your character model disappears into the 'shadows' and you're unable to be targeted with things like stuns that require you to click on your target.

i cant dl replays either, but were people able to use targeted stuns or something on you? otherwise, its not really gamebreaking.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 18:57:48
October 07 2015 18:55 GMT
#23016
Well... I mean... that's pretty much being invisible. Invis heroes tagged by stuff like Spec dagger are unclickable as well.

He has a particle effect so you can track him, but it behaves exactly like invisibility that can't be revealed.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 07 2015 20:12 GMT
#23017
On October 08 2015 02:48 BluemoonSC wrote:
you're not 'invisible' - your character model disappears into the 'shadows' and you're unable to be targeted with things like stuns that require you to click on your target.

i cant dl replays either, but were people able to use targeted stuns or something on you? otherwise, its not really gamebreaking.

eh its quite big, thats a lot of regen u wud be missing out on during ur ult
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 07 2015 20:19 GMT
#23018
when you are muted, do you see the ingamechat?

played my first dotamatches for some months and noone is chatting in my games nor can i see the stuff i just wrote in chat.
now i dont know whether im muted, whether it is a bug or whether valve decided to disable ingamechat.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 20:30:26
October 07 2015 20:28 GMT
#23019
There's a tick box under your chat box in-game that you've likely ticked called "Disable all chat" or something like that

being muted doesn't prevent you from reading other players chat plus you get a notification when you are muted and another when you try to type and are muted.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 08 2015 10:07 GMT
#23020
On October 08 2015 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
There's a tick box under your chat box in-game that you've likely ticked called "Disable all chat" or something like that

being muted doesn't prevent you from reading other players chat plus you get a notification when you are muted and another when you try to type and are muted.

you were right, thanks. now i can troll/rage/flame/whine/blame again
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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