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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On February 21 2014 01:34 Noya wrote: Lategame I rather have Satanic/Daedalus/new BKB/Abyssal/Hex for last slot instead of another agility item. Illusions and splitpush TB is strong but there are times when you have to manfight. Hence the question is: what 2 agility items you want as 3rd and 4th slot :D | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On February 21 2014 00:49 lolfail9001 wrote: Eblade is better dagon on TB. Not to mention that DPS wise it is one of the strongest DPS items on him. eblade is twice as expensive as dagon | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
Because it is DPS item too, makes sense :D. Not to mention that burst it gives is ~dagon 4 (that costs like bfly, mind you) in amount of damage at lvl25 TB with manta, skadi, bfly, eblade | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On February 21 2014 05:39 Dead9 wrote: if you're going blink dagon i don't think you're worried about lv25 lol Eblade serves as stat item (that is good for pushing), not as dagon replacement. It has utility of it though, i won't deny :3, | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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ChunderBoy
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
On February 21 2014 20:12 ChunderBoy wrote: daily reminder that if ure buying radiance on TB, then u might as well play Naga Fixed it for you  Now seriously, why Radiance when you can get all T2s with just Manta and go highground after Manta Skadi at 25minutes? I see Radiance on TB as a "my team wont be able to take fights early anyway"/"we just need to stall until lategame and we win". In that case I get it, but apart from helping you get 6 slotted sooner, I don't like the synergy. Both the 60% damage illusions and 550 Range 80base damage aspects of the hero doesn't synergize with the item. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 21 2014 22:25 Noya wrote: Fixed it for you Now seriously, why Radiance when you can get all T2s with just Manta and go highground after Manta Skadi at 25minutes? I see Radiance on TB as a "my team wont be able to take fights early anyway"/"we just need to stall until lategame and we win". In that case I get it, but apart from helping you get 6 slotted sooner, I don't like the synergy. Both the 60% damage illusions and 550 Range 80base damage aspects of the hero doesn't synergize with the item. radiance on TB is way more important than radiance on Naga, if u fail to see that try figuring out why. implying teamfighting or fighting in general is in any way favourable ever if u have a hardcarry especially terrorblade. radiance makes u take control of the whole map, u literally decide for the enemy when they push and when they dont. manta first on tb is such a fucking joke. you can literally have pms quelling treads yasha rad at ~16min. if freefarming you shud be hitting more than 10cs by 10min. you also dont need a manta to take a T2 nor do u need a team with u to do so, constant pressure everywhere gives u so much space to do it freely. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:00 ChunderBoy wrote: you can literally have pms quelling treads yasha rad at ~16min. if freefarming you shud be hitting more than 10cs by 10min. Please, provide a replay of 600GPM Terrorblade at 16mins in which Radiance made any difference, or any with more than 10 cs per minute by min 10. Serious request not kidding, I really want to improve my farm with this hero, and if you get it so early, of course it can have a sick impact. I know you can lasthit in lane with QB illusion while your main hero farms the jungle, but I don't get that level of free farm in my games sadly. Anyway with that amount of farm you could be getting a Skadi Manta at min 20 and just A click their base. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:36 Noya wrote: Please, provide a replay of 600GPM Terrorblade at 16mins in which Radiance made any difference, or any with more than 10 cs per minute by min 10. Serious request not kidding, I really want to improve my farm with this hero, and if you get it so early, of course it can have a sick impact. I know you can lasthit in lane with QB illusion while your main hero farms the jungle, but I don't get that level of free farm in my games sadly. Anyway with that amount of farm you could be getting a Skadi Manta at min 20 and just A click their base. http://dotabuff.com/matches/493401289 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0rgt3999khvris/493401289.dem http://dotabuff.com/matches/493325131 | n/a http://dotabuff.com/matches/512188054 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8vhkxnimh02up9/512188054.dem http://dotabuff.com/matches/495895461 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7sc3kp574gclhn/495895461.dem http://dotabuff.com/matches/513148083 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3erlsl1903zad9/513148083.dem all of these games were already winning i guess http://dotabuff.com/matches/513191997 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fz3ry20mkcrzf1/513191997.dem the last one might show u how radiance wins losing games. ive managed to get 130cs at 11min with am once. but in complete free farm lanes its so much easier with naga/tb | ||
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
 But yeah I see where you are going, that's some sick farm. Do you yasha before Radiance? what happens if you get your lane contested/not free farm? | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:47 Noya wrote: every replay expired, fml But yeah I see where you are going, that's some sick farm. Do you yasha before Radiance? what happens if you get your lane contested/not free farm? ill try dropboxxing them, getting lane contested doesnt matter much for tb, u can use meta and hit enemies/creeps and u can always get as much as u can and jungle later, coz rly u have unlimited sustainability in the jungle with ur 7 armour and 2.5 hp regen at lvl 1. radiance rushes suck, ideally get yasha or drum before. imo the most ideal build is 1-4-2 but most of the times i find myself maxing meta before illu. if lane/jungle dynamics were same as pre-6.79 i think id manage 1k gpm and 600 cs at 35min every game with this hero. | ||
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
On February 21 2014 23:47 Noya wrote: every replay expired, fml But yeah I see where you are going, that's some sick farm. Do you yasha before Radiance? what happens if you get your lane contested/not free farm? Re-uploaded that last game for you. You'll have to figure out how to watch it on your own though, I've forgotten how to. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34486 Posts
Playdemo replays/replaynumber Edit: actually you don't even need to do this. Just search up the replay in game through the filter menu and it'll work that way since it's not a private lobby. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
time to nap | ||
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
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whoso
Germany523 Posts
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