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On May 14 2016 21:31 icystorage wrote: Abyss of Suffering Don't have the TC anymore. But OG got laid down. | ||
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There has been a growing voice in the community that Liquid doesn't seem to have many die hard fans. And I think that's true, and the team's strength is at fault, and as I have said in aforementioned threads, I'd like to also comment in the appropriate forum - this very fan page. . . . Never in history it happened that a liquid player would be the one to beat, during the Broodwar era, there was the invincible gods the Koreans, even other European clans were stronger. In SC2 era, Liquid finally did recruit Koreans like Hero, but they were always the underdogs, the possible contenders but never the unstoppable force, every victory against strong opposition was greeted by a strong roar by the liquid community. And the Dota team was no different, we grew to love the mediocre spazzy squads that were always capable of taking series from the titans, but also no matter how large their lead was, you always had to worry, and any major series victory was a cause for celebration. . . . Compare it to the new Liquid, ranked #1 in the world by Gosugamers, they are one of the top contenders. Coming in as a favourite into a series against EG, a TI champion, OG and let's face it, pretty much anyone in the Dota world right now people seem to be missing the excitement of standing behind what we are used to stand behind, roaringly cheer what we are used to be cheering for - the loveable hit or miss but capable underdog. The only spazzing this team does is early in the match or especially midgame, only to predictably take the game back in the lategame. And as a liquid diehard, this is very confusing, and it shows in the weak response to this team so far considering it's strenght. I for one hope that liquid starts honouring it's fans and the strong legacy of the brand instead of disrespecting it's history - and finally starts replicating the glorious unpredictable underdog spazzy dark horse vibe that so many previous Liquid teams and players across pro-gaming platforms have shown, and the values on which this strong brand was build. Sincerely, Formed Liquid die hard fan. | ||
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Wonder if they'll just skip that with it only being 3 days prior to Summit. Oh and Summit ALSO didn't invite Liquid, they only got an invite for the qualifiers alongside Alliance and Empire. Seriously guys? So probably OG / EG / Secret get direct invites instead? Actually there's no information on how they fill up the slots at all but since the qualifier (4 quals, 8 slots) plays out the grandfinals I'm assuming it's just the winner of the quals, so 4 direct invites, 4 quals? Not sure if this is supposed to be funny or sad at this point. | ||
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spudde123
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If those were the invites I would agree it would be quite silly, but it is also perfectly possible that TL simply didn't want to play Nanyang and instead chose to play Summit. And as I said Summit hasn't had multiple direct invites in the past, so them being in quals isn't an insult to their achievements. | ||
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On May 15 2016 03:36 spudde123 wrote: Summit has never had multiple direct invites have they? So I somewhat doubt that OG, EG and Secret were somehow all invited. EG and Secret are also playing at Nanyang, and there's also SL straight after Summit (teams not announced). So it's possible EG and Secret are simply not playing Summit at all. Not sure about OG's plans. If those were the invites I would agree it would be quite silly, but it is also perfectly possible that TL simply didn't want to play Nanyang and instead chose to play Summit. And as I said Summit hasn't had multiple direct invites in the past, so them being in quals isn't an insult to their achievements. yeah them turning down or simply not wanting to play nanyang is what I meant with the "wonder if they'll just skip nanyang" part, wasn't quite clear the way I worded it, my bad. Nanyang is frankly just tough luck. They said they'd invite 1 from each region: EU, NA, SEA, CN with the other 4 being determined by qualifiers and Secret just happens to be standing champion. So I don't evem blame them for that. You can't just NOT invite standing champion unless there's some huge drama. Don't really remember how the last summit went down when it comes to invites, so could be idk. | ||
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Hopefully we see them against NewBee though. | ||
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On May 15 2016 03:10 LemOn wrote: Well careful what you wish for I guess, There has been a growing voice in the community that Liquid doesn't seem to have many die hard fans. And I think that's true, and the team's strength is at fault, and as I have said in aforementioned threads, I'd like to also comment in the appropriate forum - this very fan page. . . . Never in history it happened that a liquid player would be the one to beat, during the Broodwar era, there was the invincible gods the Koreans, even other European clans were stronger. In SC2 era, Liquid finally did recruit Koreans like Hero, but they were always the underdogs, the possible contenders but never the unstoppable force, every victory against strong opposition was greeted by a strong roar by the liquid community. And the Dota team was no different, we grew to love the mediocre spazzy squads that were always capable of taking series from the titans, but also no matter how large their lead was, you always had to worry, and any major series victory was a cause for celebration. . . . Compare it to the new Liquid, ranked #1 in the world by Gosugamers, they are one of the top contenders. Coming in as a favourite into a series against EG, a TI champion, OG and let's face it, pretty much anyone in the Dota world right now people seem to be missing the excitement of standing behind what we are used to stand behind, roaringly cheer what we are used to be cheering for - the loveable hit or miss but capable underdog. The only spazzing this team does is early in the match or especially midgame, only to predictably take the game back in the lategame. And as a liquid diehard, this is very confusing, and it shows in the weak response to this team so far considering it's strenght. I for one hope that liquid starts honouring it's fans and the strong legacy of the brand instead of disrespecting it's history - and finally starts replicating the glorious unpredictable underdog spazzy dark horse vibe that so many previous Liquid teams and players across pro-gaming platforms have shown, and the values on which this strong brand was build. Sincerely, Formed Liquid die hard fan. I think it is pretty much safe to say, that they are not favourites in the finals by any means, since they lost two consecutive ones and looked well off their game in each of them, so they still are the underdog until they prove us wrong  | ||
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giftdgecko
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On May 15 2016 03:10 LemOn wrote: Well careful what you wish for I guess, There has been a growing voice in the community that Liquid doesn't seem to have many die hard fans. And I think that's true, and the team's strength is at fault, and as I have said in aforementioned threads, I'd like to also comment in the appropriate forum - this very fan page. . . . Never in history it happened that a liquid player would be the one to beat, during the Broodwar era, there was the invincible gods the Koreans, even other European clans were stronger. In SC2 era, Liquid finally did recruit Koreans like Hero, but they were always the underdogs, the possible contenders but never the unstoppable force, every victory against strong opposition was greeted by a strong roar by the liquid community. And the Dota team was no different, we grew to love the mediocre spazzy squads that were always capable of taking series from the titans, but also no matter how large their lead was, you always had to worry, and any major series victory was a cause for celebration. . . . Compare it to the new Liquid, ranked #1 in the world by Gosugamers, they are one of the top contenders. Coming in as a favourite into a series against EG, a TI champion, OG and let's face it, pretty much anyone in the Dota world right now people seem to be missing the excitement of standing behind what we are used to stand behind, roaringly cheer what we are used to be cheering for - the loveable hit or miss but capable underdog. The only spazzing this team does is early in the match or especially midgame, only to predictably take the game back in the lategame. And as a liquid diehard, this is very confusing, and it shows in the weak response to this team so far considering it's strenght. I for one hope that liquid starts honouring it's fans and the strong legacy of the brand instead of disrespecting it's history - and finally starts replicating the glorious unpredictable underdog spazzy dark horse vibe that so many previous Liquid teams and players across pro-gaming platforms have shown, and the values on which this strong brand was build. Sincerely, Formed Liquid die hard fan. Summer is coming, a bit of Taeja style dominance would be welcome | ||
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