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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 16 2019 13:00 GMT
#6621
in this thread: posts that age well.
Toshiru
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany47 Posts
May 16 2019 13:01 GMT
#6622
This is turning out to be even funnier now :D
If you go over your limits, would you be able to go back?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 16 2019 13:01 GMT
#6623
Liquid numbah waaaan
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 13:07:48
May 16 2019 13:07 GMT
#6624
i mean we just won against Secret, but bo1's always were Liquids achilles heel, so i dont get why so many people are surprised that we are not doing so hot in this qualifier...top 5 should still be doable, and in the playoffs it's bo3 again. if it doesnt work, well there is still the minor, so relax guys;)
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 16 2019 16:17 GMT
#6625
I think I'm done. Whatever Liquid qualifies for or if they qualify at all, I just don't care, and I'm not going to force myself to watch Liquid play these dogshit qualifiers just because I'm a fan. These qualifiers being 2 days after the major and the group stage being fucking Bo1s is just stupid.

I'm more than happy with Liquid's performance at the major so I'm not mad at them but it's just too many games and now they're not even high quality anymore due to the Bo1s. DPC needs some very serious changes next season
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
May 16 2019 16:22 GMT
#6626
in this thread : posts that age well
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 16:28:47
May 16 2019 16:24 GMT
#6627
On May 17 2019 01:17 juuto wrote:
I think I'm done. Whatever Liquid qualifies for or if they qualify at all, I just don't care, and I'm not going to force myself to watch Liquid play these dogshit qualifiers just because I'm a fan. These qualifiers being 2 days after the major and the group stage being fucking Bo1s is just stupid.

I'm more than happy with Liquid's performance at the major so I'm not mad at them but it's just too many games and now they're not even high quality anymore due to the Bo1s. DPC needs some very serious changes next season


Liquid was the best team in the world for just 2 hours - now they are just tier 3.

I am pretty sure that any match they play seriously PPD with Oracle doesnt kill MC + GH 1v2 @ level 1. Twice. \
Then when you kill Ace you don't wait 30 secs for him to respawn before going to Rosh. They started rosh when Ace was 3 secs to respawn. And he had Omni. Then They jump 3 times Monkey King when they know oracle is in the area. Blow all the damage, and then sit in the MK ultimate

Seems like our boys are 2k mmr and don't know nothing about dota. Maybe we need better players - Me for example almost 3k mmr. Ez upgrade.

hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 16:25:15
May 16 2019 16:24 GMT
#6628
with that loss to nip, that is it right? not saying liquid played well or something, but man do i hate bo1. Its so random, and liquid was always bad at that...
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 17:18:10
May 16 2019 17:16 GMT
#6629
On May 17 2019 01:24 hunter_x wrote:
with that loss to nip, that is it right? not saying liquid played well or something, but man do i hate bo1. Its so random, and liquid was always bad at that...



I think if OG wins against ACE - then there will be a best of one tiebreaker between Liquid and ACE.

"2. If teams are tied for advancement to the playoffs, they should play a best-of-one tie-breaker."

So even though Liquid lost to ACE in their match, the head-to-head score doesn't seem to matter.
At least that's what it sounds like to me.
Also - if Alliance lose both of their next matches they will be 3-4 as well, so it might even end up in a 3-way tie breaker.


What a roller coaster...

We now have to hope that Jerax&friends win to get a chance to make it to the play-offs for the qualifier.

Kuro's masterplan of playing LITERALLY as many games as humanly possible?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 16 2019 17:29 GMT
#6630
Uhhh let's just hope for the best honestly :S
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
May 16 2019 17:37 GMT
#6631
On May 17 2019 01:24 hunter_x wrote:
with that loss to nip, that is it right? not saying liquid played well or something, but man do i hate bo1. Its so random, and liquid was always bad at that...

Jumping in that fight at NiP's shrine was not related to Bo1 or anything :-p Just strange plays and underwhelming performance overall today... :'(
NoiR
Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
May 16 2019 17:56 GMT
#6632
On May 17 2019 02:16 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 01:24 hunter_x wrote:
with that loss to nip, that is it right? not saying liquid played well or something, but man do i hate bo1. Its so random, and liquid was always bad at that...



I think if OG wins against ACE - then there will be a best of one tiebreaker between Liquid and ACE.

"2. If teams are tied for advancement to the playoffs, they should play a best-of-one tie-breaker."

So even though Liquid lost to ACE in their match, the head-to-head score doesn't seem to matter.
At least that's what it sounds like to me.
Also - if Alliance lose both of their next matches they will be 3-4 as well, so it might even end up in a 3-way tie breaker.


What a roller coaster...

We now have to hope that Jerax&friends win to get a chance to make it to the play-offs for the qualifier.

Kuro's masterplan of playing LITERALLY as many games as humanly possible?


does that still play if they lost to ACE in the round robins?
I said hiii
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 16 2019 18:42 GMT
#6633
thanks OG i guess XD
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 18:54:02
May 16 2019 18:52 GMT
#6634
edit: interpreted tiebreaker rules wrong

bo1 tiebreaker here we go
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 16 2019 19:13 GMT
#6635
And here we go with a Brood pick. Time to cheese through the Tiebreaker. :D
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 16 2019 19:28 GMT
#6636
Imagine we played like that in the first match to avoid tiebreakers x)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 16 2019 20:37 GMT
#6637
Whoo. Live to fight another day.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 17 2019 06:31 GMT
#6638
Im glad that we will play today, but these rules were not really fair.
Why were we in a 3 way tie when both other teams won vs Liquid?
YBBUB
Profile Joined September 2018
70 Posts
May 17 2019 08:21 GMT
#6639
On May 17 2019 03:42 hunter_x wrote:
thanks OG i guess XD

you can thank OG again after hi-risk hi-reward plays when TL 2-1 them

On May 17 2019 15:31 NInoff wrote:
Im glad that we will play today, but these rules were not really fair.
Why were we in a 3 way tie when both other teams won vs Liquid?

hah, probably realised rules were bad but ppd called them out when they deleted them
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 17 2019 09:31 GMT
#6640
not a fan of it either (despite being a liquid fan and it helping us in this case) but it's not exactly the first time. There's apparently history on it if it's bo1. Head-to-head doesn't count and it automatically goes to tie-breakers for teams that are tied on places that determine elimination or going through while head-to-head comes into place for seeding matters as long as the teams are in the same "bracket", say a tie between 2nd and 3rd place.

I would prefer a bo3 and head-to-head rules as well but given that that's how bo1 quals have always been and it just happening to be bo1 it's kind of a mute point.

That being said, I feel like these quals are pretty questionable. Couldn't OG have lost on purpose and eliminated TL that way?
I'm glad OG played for the win and I absolutely respect them for that but let's be real here, if you have 2 slots between NIP+OG + 1 out of either TL, Alliance or Ace I'm pretty sure NiP and OG have a pretty damn good reason to make sure Alliance or Ace get through because that way NiP + OG are almost 100% secured to get their invite for the Major.
Whereas NiP + OG + TL quals for 2 slots is a lot more stress for those 2 teams.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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