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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 12 2019 23:05 GMT
#6601
Great tournament overall - shame they couldn't get more done against secret, but nobody seems to be able to right now. Great play and a solid result when a lot of people have been writing them off.

Gl next.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 13 2019 05:57 GMT
#6602
Yeah, Liquid had a long day.
But that's what you get if you have to go through the lower bracket! Some advantage must be there for the upper bracket.
While of course the games are much shorter, I think I remember that in the Smash community/tournaments the players from the lower bracket not only have to play more games, but also to win TWO bo5 in the grand finals! Happy we don't get that

Secret is the team to beat. And damn I was impressed by their "magic-damage-strat"! So good and great itemization!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 06:23:25
May 13 2019 06:21 GMT
#6603
GG's And Congrats to Secret, Well deserved Win!
Our boys did well this tournament, i am glad that we are starting to play strong when TI is getting close, a win @ Epicenter will be a nice way to end the pre TI year.

P.S. EU Quqlifiers for Epicenter start in 2 days we will have a chance for revenge there.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-15 12:22:49
May 15 2019 12:22 GMT
#6604
i hope they were still high from the ti qualification after party... that laning phase was so sad and badly designed :-D
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2019 14:13 GMT
#6605
I saw notifications that Liquid games were being played and I couldn't believe it was possible. How is it possible that Valve thinks any of this is okay? We don't even get a week or even 4 days break after the major until we're playing for the next major????
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 15 2019 16:48 GMT
#6606
Seems like the boys are having fun in these qualifiers - miracle testing if he can Make Orchid instead of linkens vs Batrider when behind and survive - it didn't workout :D
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2019 16:53 GMT
#6607
I can't be the only one concerned about the fact Liquid and the rest of the players from the major are being worked like fucking dogs.

Liquid had it somewhat easier because it was a European tournament. There are players flying to different fucking regions of the fucking planet and immediately having to play these qualifiers. This has got to be a joke.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 15 2019 17:24 GMT
#6608
On May 16 2019 01:53 juuto wrote:
I can't be the only one concerned about the fact Liquid and the rest of the players from the major are being worked like fucking dogs.

Liquid had it somewhat easier because it was a European tournament. There are players flying to different fucking regions of the fucking planet and immediately having to play these qualifiers. This has got to be a joke.


This year's schedule is kind of meh overall.I agree that especially the Guys from NA and Asia that attended the Paris Major are kind of fucked but on the bright side NA and Asia don't start until tomorrow.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 15 2019 17:58 GMT
#6609
omfg they lost vs Alliance... i'm baffled, this qualifier is already hard enough with OG Secret and NiP and they still lose to one of the weakest team of the region.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2019 18:15 GMT
#6610
On May 16 2019 02:24 NInoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2019 01:53 juuto wrote:
I can't be the only one concerned about the fact Liquid and the rest of the players from the major are being worked like fucking dogs.

Liquid had it somewhat easier because it was a European tournament. There are players flying to different fucking regions of the fucking planet and immediately having to play these qualifiers. This has got to be a joke.


This year's schedule is kind of meh overall.I agree that especially the Guys from NA and Asia that attended the Paris Major are kind of fucked but on the bright side NA and Asia don't start until tomorrow.


EG was playing a game when you wrote this message lol
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 16 2019 08:01 GMT
#6611
Right after the major there is another tourney with 4 of the top 6 from last major. Eu region is scary.
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
May 16 2019 12:00 GMT
#6612
another day with continuous lose streak against T3 team
*sigh*
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 12:03:41
May 16 2019 12:02 GMT
#6613
They just got dumpstered by ACE with a mid SK.Depressing to see...fatigue cannot be the reason seeing that Secret, LGD, OG, VG and EG are doing well through the qualifiers.

Matu 20 min freefarm no impact, MC on Enigma disappointing as well. Don't get it why they are still giving up the offline for a freefarmibg enemy core just to make Enigma work.

Make me somehow believe that MDL was a fluke and they are still in a bad spot.

Well...if they do not win against Secret, it is nearly over.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 16 2019 12:14 GMT
#6614
liquid are back... into the garbage bin.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 16 2019 12:22 GMT
#6615
Its interesting how people make conclusions after just one game. Even if they drop out of the qualifiers it doesn't really matter - they secured the TI spot, and for a team that won TI and has been stable for 3 years, thats the only thing that matters.

If we judge for a team after one game - if they win vs Secret will they be the best team in the world ?
Toshiru
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany47 Posts
May 16 2019 12:23 GMT
#6616
I am totally enjoying the drama now . Surely a bad performance and honestly I have no idea what's going through their heads or what is happening to the team. Nonetheless still keeping my hopes up, even if we have to go through the minor :D
If you go over your limits, would you be able to go back?
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 16 2019 12:34 GMT
#6617
On May 16 2019 21:22 NInoff wrote:
Its interesting how people make conclusions after just one game. Even if they drop out of the qualifiers it doesn't really matter - they secured the TI spot, and for a team that won TI and has been stable for 3 years, thats the only thing that matters.

If we judge for a team after one game - if they win vs Secret will they be the best team in the world ?


it's 4 games, not one. And we cannot judge them even from the 2 good days at MDL Major too, right?

I think that not be able to qualify for a Major for a team of the caliber or Liquid is a massive failure, shit like "oh but they are already qualified so idc" are ridiculous, look at Secret and VP (that's the tier of Liquid lineup and they have showed in the last season) constantly perform decently and are able to stay always on the top of the region. I don't think it's right to expect to win every event and qualifier, but still be able to compete at that level it should be normal. And this season only at MDL Paris we had that kind of feeling, like "oh they could do it, they have a shot to win the trophy!".

I don't know if the sequence of Epicenter - TI - entire season of top 4 placement plus Supermajor did satisfy everyone so now it doesn't matter how they perform, but for me seeing them struggle like this for the most part of this season is not fun :-(
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 16 2019 12:43 GMT
#6618
Considering their current showing against Secret, I believe it is more of a "mental" issue. Kuro said it by himself his biggest task is actually to keep them motivated as money wise they are totally fine.

They still got it, but maybe they just require this extra bit of motivation by playing against the very best.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 13:01:10
May 16 2019 12:59 GMT
#6619
We just ran over the best team in the world. Now we are the best team in the world, guaranteed. TI is now pointless competition for the second place.
#stablegenius

On a more serious note - the problem with this qualifier so far is best summarized here (starts @ 2:36, didn't manage to link exact start )
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 16 2019 13:00 GMT
#6620
On May 16 2019 21:14 Savatage wrote:
liquid are back... into the garbage bin.

OMG OMG OMG! Liquid are now the best team in the world!
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