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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 16 2017 23:32 GMT
#4821
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/16/16155504/dota2-the-international-valve-2017-esports-economics

Article quoting an interview with Nazgul (which is unreleased, I'm looking forward to that as well).
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
August 17 2017 10:35 GMT
#4822
They seem to have insane salaries.
Add sick price money like TI to that... I really hope those kids don't get too screwed up, having that kind of money at that age.

I wouldn't have trusted 22 year old me with a couple of million back then
Hopefully most of them know they won't have this income stream forever, and if they aren't careful they will have no proper job in 4-5 years. If they waste money on stupid stuff now, a lot of them might get themselves into a whole bunch of trouble later on.

Please Viktor... make sure to talk some sense into everyone, in case they are about to buy a Ferrari!!!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 00:34:28
August 17 2017 12:34 GMT
#4823
On August 17 2017 19:35 sCuMBaG wrote:
They seem to have insane salaries.
Add sick price money like TI to that... I really hope those kids don't get too screwed up, having that kind of money at that age.

I wouldn't have trusted 22 year old me with a couple of million back then
Hopefully most of them know they won't have this income stream forever, and if they aren't careful they will have no proper job in 4-5 years. If they waste money on stupid stuff now, a lot of them might get themselves into a whole bunch of trouble later on.

Please Viktor... make sure to talk some sense into everyone, in case they are about to buy a Ferrari!!!

Who buys ferraris these days? Get a fucking Porsche man;)
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 17 2017 14:32 GMT
#4824
So the Money gets split 8way
TL
Players
Manager
Coach
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 17 2017 14:33 GMT
#4825
Get a volvo.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
August 17 2017 14:44 GMT
#4826
Feels good to the see liquid as new reddit banner;)
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 17 2017 15:26 GMT
#4827
On August 17 2017 23:32 LemOn wrote:
So the Money gets split 8way
TL
Players
Manager
Coach

I was kinda surprised that TL takes a cut, I know some orgs don't and I figured TL was one of them. I think since players have tremendous leverage in Dota, the deal was still fair.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 16:29:53
August 17 2017 16:29 GMT
#4828
I think it would be sth like 16% x 5 players + 7% Heen + 7% manager + 6% organization.

That or 15 x 5 + 8 + 8 + 9.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
August 17 2017 16:39 GMT
#4829
Still very delighted that Liquid won TI! Wish we get an update and interviews with the players soon since the win probably sunk in by now.

Game 1, Newbee tried to bait Liquid into picking KOTL so they can dominate early game and defend mid game with nyx and bloodseeker but instead Liquid went for the NP pick instead. Surely that threw Newbee off completely and set the tone for the whole series.

I can't decide which player jersey to purchase since they all perform so well this tournament.
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
August 17 2017 17:15 GMT
#4830
On August 18 2017 01:39 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Still very delighted that Liquid won TI! Wish we get an update and interviews with the players soon since the win probably sunk in by now.

I can't decide which player jersey to purchase since they all perform so well this tournament.


i want some interviews as well :D

I got them before they had them in stock or something and now I have one on the way without a name ...
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
August 17 2017 17:22 GMT
#4831
Buy one from miracle- or mind_control, that way you don't have to explain what is the meaning of matumbaman, GH or Kuroky
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
August 17 2017 21:08 GMT
#4832
Alright fuck it, i need to get one. Can someone tell me about the sizes? Are they like football jerseys? Im 183 cm and not fat, what should i get?
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
August 17 2017 21:33 GMT
#4833
On August 18 2017 00:26 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 23:32 LemOn wrote:
So the Money gets split 8way
TL
Players
Manager
Coach

I was kinda surprised that TL takes a cut, I know some orgs don't and I figured TL was one of them. I think since players have tremendous leverage in Dota, the deal was still fair.



Typically if the players get a salary then the org takes a cut of winning, but if they dont get any salary then the team doesn't take a cut.
Push 2 Harder
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 17 2017 21:36 GMT
#4834
On August 18 2017 06:33 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 00:26 lestye wrote:
On August 17 2017 23:32 LemOn wrote:
So the Money gets split 8way
TL
Players
Manager
Coach

I was kinda surprised that TL takes a cut, I know some orgs don't and I figured TL was one of them. I think since players have tremendous leverage in Dota, the deal was still fair.



Typically if the players get a salary then the org takes a cut of winning, but if they dont get any salary then the team doesn't take a cut.

I think thats the ancient way of doing stuff, like in 2011. I dont think thats the modern model.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 08:19:50
August 18 2017 08:19 GMT
#4835
On August 18 2017 06:36 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 06:33 Bigtony wrote:
On August 18 2017 00:26 lestye wrote:
On August 17 2017 23:32 LemOn wrote:
So the Money gets split 8way
TL
Players
Manager
Coach

I was kinda surprised that TL takes a cut, I know some orgs don't and I figured TL was one of them. I think since players have tremendous leverage in Dota, the deal was still fair.



Typically if the players get a salary then the org takes a cut of winning, but if they dont get any salary then the team doesn't take a cut.

I think thats the ancient way of doing stuff, like in 2011. I dont think thats the modern model.


The players receive salaries ranging between $100k and $200k (according to Nazgul's interview) - I'm quite certain they spoke about this when signing a contract and were all very happy with the deal.

Problems just start when a team (e.g. Secret) is starting to take cuts without even telling the players.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 18 2017 09:15 GMT
#4836
On August 18 2017 06:08 hunter_x wrote:
Alright fuck it, i need to get one. Can someone tell me about the sizes? Are they like football jerseys? Im 183 cm and not fat, what should i get?

sounds like u should get a large
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
August 18 2017 10:01 GMT
#4837
Just saw, Joindota catched kky for an interview:
https://www.joindota.com/en/news/58084-kuroky-i-wanna-play-all-these-majors

haven't seen it yet (I'm at work )
There can only be one Geisterkarle
solid.salve3
Profile Joined August 2016
80 Posts
August 19 2017 00:18 GMT
#4838
"Liquid, Liquid & Liquid"

keep strong, keep solid, keep team work, always spirit & don't worry anything

defend the aegis TI8

I will support you all anywhere, anytime, LETSGOLIQUID
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
August 19 2017 07:07 GMT
#4839
On August 18 2017 06:08 hunter_x wrote:
Alright fuck it, i need to get one. Can someone tell me about the sizes? Are they like football jerseys? Im 183 cm and not fat, what should i get?


pretty sure M

I am 180cm and pretty muscular and it's quite long in size.
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-19 10:18:43
August 19 2017 10:14 GMT
#4840
On August 19 2017 16:07 derElbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 06:08 hunter_x wrote:
Alright fuck it, i need to get one. Can someone tell me about the sizes? Are they like football jerseys? Im 183 cm and not fat, what should i get?


pretty sure M

I am 180cm and pretty muscular and it's quite long in size.

So you have it in M? Can you tell me how long and how broad this thing is?
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