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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 07:24:25
June 13 2016 07:22 GMT
#341
On June 13 2016 16:10 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
T W O P A T C H B O Y S

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 23:33 DucK- wrote:
This win feels more impressive than Frankfurt, because then og was very 1 dimensional in their drafts. This tournament, they used a wide variety of strategies adapted according to their opponents. They looked super prepared for this tournament.

The concern though is that they are still very dependent on fly drafts, which means should he gets lazy and stop his draft preparations, I don't think 9k and execution is enough (ie win by sheer outplay).



I suspect 7ckngMad played a big role in that preparation, wonder if we'll see the coaching role valued higher with other teams after this

Many teams already tried having a coach, problem is many coaches want to play too so is kinda hard to have one for a long time, and having him for a short time has disadvantages too, like players not trusting/listening to him as much as they should.

It would be great if most teams had one, the scene would keep growing.

On June 13 2016 06:17 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 23:44 Racket wrote:
On June 12 2016 23:33 DucK- wrote:
This win feels more impressive than Frankfurt, because then og was very 1 dimensional in their drafts. This tournament, they used a wide variety of strategies adapted according to their opponents. They looked super prepared for this tournament.

The concern though is that they are still very dependent on fly drafts, which means should he gets lazy and stop his draft preparations, I don't think 9k and execution is enough (ie win by sheer outplay).

Well, in the last two series Miracle wasn't as impressive as early on. The teamplay kicked in when it was needed the most.

If it is indeed as you say, then I wouldn't be afraid, I believe he will work even harder for TI. I don't think he is the kind of guy who will understimate the opponents because he won two Majors.


To be fair to miracle they were focusing him mid really hard. 3 mid at all times. It gave space to other lanes and he always recovered well though.

Yeah, that is what happens when teams realize you are worth focusing on. Problem is when you are not the only one worth focusing on.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 15:22:00
June 13 2016 15:20 GMT
#342
I just watched MVP vs OG game 2. That is some brutal shit, lol. They make MVP seem like a tier 3 team.

It must be so easy for Fly to draft, since it looks like all of the players on OG can play almost all of the heroes in the game on almost any position.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
June 13 2016 15:39 GMT
#343
Most pros probably could do that BUT most Teams don't have the synergy/shotcalling/knowledge to play strat XYZ to counter their opponents as hard as OG did and fall back into "habits".
I mean, most of OG's wins, from what i remember, were just pure domination.

Also weird was Liquids drafting in game 3. They just lost game 2 and then proceed to pick the basically same stuff again and, surprise, lose again... No idea what Kuro tought when Drafting in game 3 ^^.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 13 2016 15:56 GMT
#344
On June 14 2016 00:20 a_flayer wrote:
I just watched MVP vs OG game 2. That is some brutal shit, lol. They make MVP seem like a tier 3 team.

It must be so easy for Fly to draft, since it looks like all of the players on OG can play almost all of the heroes in the game on almost any position.


Nah. Moon plays all the usual offlane heroes. Fly and cr1t too at their respective positions (no Ench/Chen/Enigma though). Notail plays all the standard carry heroes, and can swap to play "easier" mid heroes like DP, DK etc. Miracle's the one with the big pool though, with a wide variety of playstyles. He can go tempo like Mag/Puck, play Invoker, go carry mids like LD/Jugg/SF/TA, or go to safelane and play the #1. It's almost like he is the combined version of RTZ and suma1l.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
June 13 2016 20:37 GMT
#345
congrats to OG some superb dota this last week, for me , Miracle is easily the best player on the world stage at the moment, he's the player now that at one point i thought RTZ might become
Chill Winston......
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 15 2016 23:15 GMT
#346
Interesting. There is not much discussion about the best Dota 2 team right now that won 2 Majors. Maybe because there is not much drama involved. Just real friendship and teamwork.
Brood War loyalist
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 15 2016 23:23 GMT
#347
On June 14 2016 00:20 a_flayer wrote:
I just watched MVP vs OG game 2. That is some brutal shit, lol. They make MVP seem like a tier 3 team.

It must be so easy for Fly to draft, since it looks like all of the players on OG can play almost all of the heroes in the game on almost any position.

MVP's style pretty much guarantees us a ride on the roller-coaster express in the Tier Amusement Park. It's always easier to look dominant against aggressive teams like Navi or MVP once it's figured out. OG's dominance is better shown in their games against Newbee and Liquid. Two of the most solid teams in the world and OG still managed to pull ahead in almost every move.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 16 2016 03:02 GMT
#348
I really feel like buying an OG hoodie
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
June 17 2016 03:01 GMT
#349
On June 13 2016 16:22 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 16:10 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
T W O P A T C H B O Y S

On June 12 2016 23:33 DucK- wrote:
This win feels more impressive than Frankfurt, because then og was very 1 dimensional in their drafts. This tournament, they used a wide variety of strategies adapted according to their opponents. They looked super prepared for this tournament.

The concern though is that they are still very dependent on fly drafts, which means should he gets lazy and stop his draft preparations, I don't think 9k and execution is enough (ie win by sheer outplay).



I suspect 7ckngMad played a big role in that preparation, wonder if we'll see the coaching role valued higher with other teams after this

Many teams already tried having a coach, problem is many coaches want to play too so is kinda hard to have one for a long time, and having him for a short time has disadvantages too, like players not trusting/listening to him as much as they should.

It would be great if most teams had one, the scene would keep growing.


Yeah, I assume the reason coaches go back to playing is there's more incentive to play rather than coach (more fun, potentially more money). Would be interesting to see if DotA2 coaches will mirror regular sports coaching where retired players can make decent money.
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
June 19 2016 19:10 GMT
#350
Whats going on rofl
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 19 2016 19:32 GMT
#351
Congrats guys! OG is playing extremely well!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 19 2016 19:32 GMT
#352
OG is on another level
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 19 2016 19:56 GMT
#353
Cakewalk for OG.
Brood War loyalist
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 20 2016 00:58 GMT
#354
If OG manages to win TI, I think they will go down as one of the greatest Dota teams ever. They are already really, really damn good.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
June 20 2016 04:49 GMT
#355
if they just stay together they'll be one of the best teams ever.
gotta believe in the potential of your own teammates.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
June 20 2016 06:03 GMT
#356
Arguably the best team in the world.
Congrats guys!
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Yamainsh
Profile Joined June 2016
Thailand1 Post
June 21 2016 18:35 GMT
#357
OG - Road to the Champion - ESL One Frankfurt 2016

It's secret
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 01:28:37
June 30 2016 01:24 GMT
#358
As much as I'd like to see Liquid win, I'm somehow not convinced of their TI championship abilities. I think OG are going to pull an Alliance and just crush everyone, hopefully culminating in an exquisite finals between China's top team and the Green Dragons. They really feel like a juggernaut that cannot be stopped, just like Alliance did back then.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
August 06 2016 02:15 GMT
#359
Topping the group going into Upper Bracket isn't any fun when u only have newbee and liquid to choose from.
Or is it gonna be random bracket?
Oppa feeding style
Vicka Elliana R.
Profile Joined August 2016
Indonesia1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 15:00:58
August 06 2016 07:55 GMT
#360
Hello, greetings

329085215 play together please...

My MidLaner
gamers is a never complain
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