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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:05 gulati wrote: literally the proven fact that you can't buy a champion. comes from within. enjoy the remainder of your careers, whatever you guys do! IG owner and Newbee owner would like to have a word with you. | ||
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goody153
44204 Posts
holy fuck this recurring theme of TI5 .. where x team do well against y team all year then at TI x team gets eliminated by y team TI5 man it's something else | ||
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
btw, why I can't see twitter posts anymore? I used to see them. Windows10 broke it? | ||
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goody153
44204 Posts
On August 07 2015 12:05 caiovigg wrote: https://twitter.com/GodBlessMali/status/629484726248538112 btw, why I can't see twitter posts anymore? I used to see them. Windows10 broke it? from where from this site ? i can still see them sometimes it doesn't appear immediately but if it's no appearing yeah you did something | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
there must be lots of doubts now with hype and fail at two of the biggest tournaments this year. they must feeling pretty shitty and question if they can go all the way. | ||
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goody153
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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goody153
44204 Posts
On August 07 2015 12:52 lolnoty wrote: re:zai deleting things. wasn't he talking about taking a break way before TI? That's one of the reasons I was pretty sure secret was going to break up after TI. RTZ probably won't stick around without Zai either. Yeah zai said that he was going to quit competitive dota to focus on his studies after TI5 cause he is doing so bad at school or almost failing alot of subjects. | ||
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uberxD
412 Posts
One of the most important reasons Secret was created is to become a powerhouse in EU and win the TI. Only one objective is completed now and considering how things went, they won't wait a whole year to aim for another TI. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
Inspirational play from all 5 players and proving to me that RTZ is not an overrated player with an overlarge ego. I am sad to see them not win TI, and I am sad to know that Zai will most likely retire. Ah well | ||
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
On August 07 2015 12:15 goody153 wrote: from where from this site ? i can still see them sometimes it doesn't appear immediately but if it's no appearing yeah you did something It was my disconnect extension for chrome, TY http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti_pod_2/v/9810241?t=4h42m58s arteezy was mad D: | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:45 CbossIV wrote: Really good point, and when I think about it I honestly felt like S4 on the QoP "Underperformed" threw out the entire tournament. But then again they have always given up the Lina pick.....and the one thing this tourny has taught is the Lina is to be feared. Possibly they felt forced to pickup the QoP so they couldn't have both Lina / QoP? The double BKB peirce is popular. Well they did pick lina, 3 times, 2 against iG and one against vp (the first game) and then proceed to win all those games. And with a better drafting strategy, they could pick sf qop and have a lina on ppy if they really want to rely on those hero for RTZ and s4. s4's qop wasnt that bad, but vp know how to play around a qop and minimize it's impact so eventually it's less effective. Letting storm get so far in the draft, when it's your nemesis as you dont pick stuns, is really silly, even more when you ban anti mage. And again it's really weird when you see the draft they had when they won their first game against vp (3 stun + dark seer + a lot of aoe dmg) I hope they stay together though, the next season with the majors is promicing a lot of quality tournaments (and probably lots of compendiums and $$ for the players). Zai might reconsider as they are still a strong squad beside some disappointments but did we ever saw a team playing 2 ti with no roster changes between ? | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
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blobrus
4297 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On August 07 2015 14:28 zdarr wrote: Well they did pick lina, 3 times, 2 against iG and one against vp (the first game) and then proceed to win all those games. And with a better drafting strategy, they could pick sf qop and have a lina on ppy if they really want to rely on those hero for RTZ and s4. s4's qop wasnt that bad, but vp know how to play around a qop and minimize it's impact so eventually it's less effective. Letting storm get so far in the draft, when it's your nemesis as you dont pick stuns, is really silly, even more when you ban anti mage. And again it's really weird when you see the draft they had when they won their first game against vp (3 stun + dark seer + a lot of aoe dmg) I hope they stay together though, the next season with the majors is promicing a lot of quality tournaments (and probably lots of compendiums and $$ for the players). Zai might reconsider as they are still a strong squad beside some disappointments but did we ever saw a team playing 2 ti with no roster changes between ? I doubt it honestly. Zai seems extremely upset at this loss. But I think people should understand how S4 has always sort of drafted. He does comfort picks, Puppey is the one that tries to out draft the other team (even if that means this team aren't familiar with the heroes he picks.) During their series against iG, RTZ was the one who called for Luna (he said this during interview after the series), and during drafting Puppey was talking a lot. I was working today so I couldn't catch the series but from what I gathered, they fell back to the SF thing and lost because of it. I don't think it's S4's fault but their drafting at TI5 is very suspect. Main stage they did nearly the same thing every time. When they didn't stick to the same thing, they won. I don't think that's coincidence. | ||
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goody153
44204 Posts
On August 07 2015 14:39 blobrus wrote: The easiest way to fix this team is to kick Puppey Kuro and S4 and recruit na dota talent. it's just like EG !  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NwtpGS0.png?1) oh boy .. this says something of how secret state is right now | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On August 07 2015 14:37 pyro19 wrote: There's a price to pay for being the dominant team when going into TI. Everyone prepares against you and watches you with the most intent. In every TI except TI3, I think the most dominant team for the previous 6 months didn't end up winning. Navi in TI2 , DK in TI4 and now Secret in TI5. Alliance is the only team i can think of who were so far ahead of everyone else in their understanding of the patch and they almost lost too. Pretty sure Newbee was the favorite coming into TI4. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
On August 07 2015 13:55 caiovigg wrote: It was my disconnect extension for chrome, TY http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti_pod_2/v/9810241?t=4h42m58s arteezy was mad D: To put it in perspective, this was after game 1 against iG | ||
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goody153
44204 Posts
On August 07 2015 14:47 chosenkerrigan wrote: Pretty sure Newbee was the favorite coming into TI4. Yeah newbee was a championship contender. They were known as one of the 3 big chinese before the tournament along with DK and IG. | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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