EPTTeam Secret Discussion - Page 79
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spudde123
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Kometijanac
Serbia98 Posts
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Super_Style
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On August 07 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote: I'm not being sarcastic. The last couple of pages of this thread are a disgrace. As for your opinion of me: I'm just being who I am. Being real. Telling it like it is. Eschewing all that PC talk to bring it right to you the way I see it. BAM! REAL TALK NO FILTER Some pages ago you called s4 one of the best mids in the world, either you are trolling or your "reality" is very very wrong. Because thats not telling it like it is. | ||
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Kometijanac
Serbia98 Posts
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brinepumps
Indonesia753 Posts
Take the hit like a man and laugh | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
enjoy the remainder of your careers, whatever you guys do! | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 07 2015 09:52 Super_Style wrote: Some pages ago you called s4 one of the best mids in the world, either you are trolling or your "reality" is very very wrong. Because thats not telling it like it is. Sometimes I wonder if fans of pro Dota have ever watched other sports seriously. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
I mean it was clear since redbulls secret was picking radiant when winning toss, Against iG, they lose the game they are dire + 2nd pick, both other games, secret are radiant. Tonight against vp, they open up radiant against VP and then proceed to play 2 game on dire and on 2nd pick. 3 loss in loser bracket, 3 times dire & 2nd pick. It's like there is 2 toss and they proceed to loses both | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
On August 07 2015 09:13 Danzo wrote: Reading this now. I always look back at how cocky Secret fans usually get and then now they couldn't even beat VP. Man oh man! although i agree with you that their fanbase has the intellect level of a salmon, you really should show more respect to VP. that's a world-class team, led by a world-class leader. Navi decided to kick him after he won them their only championship in months. he places higher than secret and navi. Get fucking shit on kiddos. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
The worst thing about TI is all these promising, talented teams that just get dismantled the instant they lose. I mean... seriously, only one team can ever win (and it will be EG now heyoooo). Secret are still in shape to take the next like four tournaments if they can avoid imploding. Idk it just sucks to lose all continuity in the scene once a year. I hope the majors change things. | ||
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spudde123
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:09 gulati wrote: although i agree with you that their fanbase has the intellect level of a salmon, you really should show more respect to VP. that's a world-class team, led by a world-class leader. Navi decided to kick him after he won them their only championship in months. he places higher than secret and navi. Get fucking shit on kiddos. True, true but i dont know if the combination is exactly "true" Mostly because he said so himself "i could not be their captain", he just didnt work out with NaVi, sadly because fng is fucking great but what can you do about it. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:15 spudde123 wrote: I mean Secret's complete dominance started only after s4 took over drafting and more of the ingame calling. I find it pretty laughable if people say that he should "get kicked". Not that he had a spectacular TI as a player or as a drafter, but still. I agree, especially after a TI where all the squad at least failed once. Skill wise there is no reason to kick anybody, but if motivation wise, or friendship wise there are some problem inside the team we wouldnt know. So there is no reason to start the shuffle discussion. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:25 zdarr wrote: I agree, especially after a TI where all the squad at least failed once. Skill wise there is no reason to kick anybody, but if motivation wise, or friendship wise there are some problem inside the team we wouldnt know. So there is no reason to start the shuffle discussion. Well some sort of a shuffle is I think imminent, because as far as I recall Zai said in some interview that he will take a break to finish his school. And one can speculate whether Arteezy wants to stay in the team without Zai, but who knows. | ||
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BillGates
471 Posts
I think their biggest issue was their drafting. I think their compositions were too one dimensional. It was either all out skirmishes or all out pushing or all out team fighting, they didn't have a rounded up lineup of good team fight, coupled with skirmishes and pushing. For example in the first game against IG they completely dominated for 30 minutes, but the fact that they had all skirmishes type heroes meant that they could push and take high ground and eventually they lost. The first game against Ehome was the same, they actually dominated the early and mid game until 31 minutes and after being unable to take high ground they started loosing. Last game for example they had a dark seer against 4 intelligence heroes that have no physical damage, dark seer didn't do anything. They also got mek and armor items and stuff, but no pipe, I feel like if someone got a pipe in the last game they would have won easily! | ||
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CbossIV
United States4 Posts
That said, I think I saw to many safe picks....Before this tourny the Chen pick was standard, but maybe they where afraid that the constant pickups of QoP / SF / Lina / Gyro would be to much for it | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
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CbossIV
United States4 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:43 Bigtony wrote: The QOP pick two games in a row for S4 was incredibly weak and they never had a solution for storm spirit. :| Really good point, and when I think about it I honestly felt like S4 on the QoP "Underperformed" threw out the entire tournament. But then again they have always given up the Lina pick.....and the one thing this tourny has taught is the Lina is to be feared. Possibly they felt forced to pickup the QoP so they couldn't have both Lina / QoP? The double BKB peirce is popular. | ||
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Kometijanac
Serbia98 Posts
On August 07 2015 10:37 CbossIV wrote: Made an account just now so I could say this. I haven't browsed liquiddota that much, but I have browsed and used liquid.net for some time. I have never seen such blatant shitposting on these forums, on maybe liquiddota has different mods, or i'm getting to old for this but on liquid.net this would be some warning / banworthy stuff. I came looking for discussion on what went wrong, what could have been done better to learn from secrets mistakes, being players I respect highly.....as should any player of this game should do. Instead I found mostly just people sporting another teams tag flaming. And secret fans trying to defend against the shitposting army. That said, I think I saw to many safe picks....Before this tourny the Chen pick was standard, but maybe they where afraid that the constant pickups of QoP / SF / Lina / Gyro would be to much for it Mods on liquiddota are far more liberal than on tl.net that for sure | ||
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