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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On November 10 2014 01:37 FHDH wrote: Tinker is playing less like a pro team and more like a pubstack. They didn't start this way. It's really curious. lack of leadership initial excitement wearing off? | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On November 10 2014 02:25 LemOn wrote: lack of leadership initial excitement wearing off? I think morale has been on a slide for sure. Leadership is not happening. I don't know if this is a personnel issue or just a cohesion issue. Team definitely needs a better drafter though. So it seems pretty likely someone is going to have to step down for someone who will either draft or fully captain. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
That won't convince anyone, right? Very nice draft, very nice team coordination :-D just an excellent game. (No opinion on VP's performance though.). Edit: game 2? Draft -_- | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
RIP tinker the team looked so promising | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
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cuckoo
595 Posts
qojqva in this game was unbeliavably bad. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:45 cuckoo wrote: everygame there's 1 of them playing so bad that actually brings the team down qojqva in this game was unbeliavably bad. Hey now. EGM was just as bad. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On November 10 2014 21:24 Atoissen wrote: I like the team, and most players, but it seems they really need a captain they can all get behind and trust 100%, as I have heard, they all have a say in just about anything, when it comes down to it, they need that rock of a captain to lead the way. Well written. They deffinateley need a Puppey or GoBlack type of figure, or at least they need to choose one to lead, others to follow, because otherwise it will not end well. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
After the start he had on naga he fed 2 completely avoidable lives and then died again then he got outfarmed with a radiance naga by silencer and legion until minute 30, not to mention the songs... He plays well with 2 heroes, others are questionable, if his team are not doing well he feeds even more, in short - he is bellow the team's level. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
And was that alliance game a FF? | ||
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cuckoo
595 Posts
they should kick pajkatt and pick bulldog but being such good friend i doubt they'll ever kick paj | ||
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cuckoo
595 Posts
Why do you think Team Tinker is not performing well? Okay, I'll give the real talk, because I don't particularly like some of them... but I will be nice at the same time. Their players aren't out-of-the-world skilled. They have strong players, but they're not way better than other players. The hype behind the team was false already, so maybe the hype got to them at the beginning. They don't have a strong support players either. When you just have average players in an average team with no leadership to add, it just becomes a shitty ass version of Liquid, that's just real talk at the end of the day. If you are expecting more, it's kind of like being fanboys. There's nothing special about them at all. I'm not even flaming, I'm just saying the truth. I think Bulba is a good core, but he's not a good support player. I think EGM needs a sort of a Zai role, he has to be a core and a support at the same time, and he really can't do that because Bulba can't play 5. Singsing can't play offlane, and his mid hero pool is not updated to this meta and he doesn't play safelane so you have that issue. Then you have Qojqva who only plays certain heroes in lane... farming. I don't know, they're not fit to play [together]. By the way, just cause I'm criticizing other people does not mean I'm a perfect player. I have my faults. Sadly, I think he's right. But I like the team anyway, just the fact they're doing what they love between friends. Maybe they develop into better players together. I find odd he doesn't talk about Pajkatt, which is the one I think he doesn't like. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
As far as TT goes it's hard to say what their own expectations were. I never really saw them as a team who would dominate the scene, and while some of their recent results have been underwhelming, it's not like they've been a total disaster in the past few months. Of course if the players feel themselves that the team just isn't working and they need someone else to fill some role or lead the team or whatever, then the change is warranted. But a random player change probably won't make things that much better. First they have to identify what the issue is and if they can't fix it themselves, bring in someone who can. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On November 11 2014 19:12 cuckoo wrote: Arteezy on TT: Sadly, I think he's right. But I like the team anyway, just the fact they're doing what they love between friends. Maybe they develop into better players together. I find odd he doesn't talk about Pajkatt, which is the one I think he doesn't like. I had to laugh hard, when i read the Part about Qojqva. Because Arteezy himself is a guy who only plays some Heroes in lane...farming. Qojqva also plays offlane and his Hero Pool is much bigger. I also dont agree about Bulba being a bad Support. I think hes doing fine. But i think he is right about EGM, that he needs to play more like Zai. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
PA QOP Puck OD Silencer TA SF Razor Viper Storm Naga Doom Lycan Dk cough Ember cough Death Prophet Pugna Natures Prophet Tinker Visage Tiny Morph Windranger Clinkz Drow Timbersaw Zues Just the ones I could think of off the top of my head, im sure there is more but its not that constricted. | ||
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