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On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote: the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed
cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again
we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely
in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely
Yep classic bone7 no stun draft Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan
i would be less disappointed if he drafted in his typical style if he at least tried to either counter cdec's common picks or deny them
they managed neither
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On August 04 2015 10:19 Sabu113 wrote: Waste of an amazing bracket.
What were they doing all weekend? Yeah the bracket was like god sent to them now AND of course they are climbing it the hard way again lol gr8 job c9
On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote: the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed
cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again
we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely
in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely
Yep classic bone7 no stun draft Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan i know that EE has this pattern on drafts on important matches like where game 1 they stomp game 2 they lose game 3 he goes full retard on drafts
but bone is so hit and miss on drafts ... game 1 draft is alright i believe so they must have just been outplayed by cdec, game 2 draft is the we are all gonna die to PL draft
oh well at least my boys from lgd won against empire
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piledriver's characterization is spot on
c9 used to have some OP feeling pocket drafts but now their stronger pocket drafts still never feel OP and their execution is rarely 10/10, even against way inferior teams that they 2-0
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On August 04 2015 11:50 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:19 Sabu113 wrote: Waste of an amazing bracket.
What were they doing all weekend? Yeah the bracket was like god sent to them now AND of course they are climbing it the hard way again lol gr8 job c9 Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote: the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed
cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again
we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely
in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely
Yep classic bone7 no stun draft Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan i know that EE has this pattern on drafts on important matches like where game 1 they stomp game 2 they lose game 3 he goes full retard on drafts but bone is so hit and miss on drafts ... game 1 draft is alright i believe so they must have just been outplayed by cdec, game 2 draft is the we are all gonna die to PL draft oh well at least my boys from lgd won against empire
At this point I'm rooting for Aui/USA; C9 might win a series tmr but it's gonna to be false hope
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Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well.
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On August 04 2015 12:19 goody153 wrote: Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well.
Envy needs to just eat his ego and join EG when fear retires
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On August 04 2015 12:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: piledriver's characterization is spot on
c9 used to have some OP feeling pocket drafts but now their stronger pocket drafts still never feel OP and their execution is rarely 10/10, even against way inferior teams that they 2-0 IG says "hi"
I still feel the drafting is the overachieving problem, with equal lineups there are not many teams stronger than C9. They have been a consistent top 6 contender throughout the year (and looked nigh unbeatable at the end of .83).
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On August 04 2015 12:23 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 12:19 goody153 wrote: Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well. Envy needs to just eat his ego and join EG when fear retires this time there ain't no rtz from eg that wants to team up with him and iirc he mentioned something about not wanting to leave bone so idk .. he's doomed i guess
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HOLY SHIT wrong thread
but c9 no hope left
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looks like fata is correct about him more like having fun than winning we fucking lost
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can't believe an envy led team would say that lol
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On August 04 2015 13:45 bagels21 wrote:can't believe an envy led team would say that lol rofl yeah this is so not envy
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C9, even though a hard blow was dealt I'm confident that you will pull through and finish top 3 at least. Bone322 has a lot of clutch plays to offer. So does BigDaddy and Misery!
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I agree with the people saying that C9 can beat everyone - however I've kinda lost hope that will take them far in this tournament because of their inconsistency and their drafting issues. To finish top 3 or whatever their aim might be, they need to win bo3's against teams that are just playing and drafting more stable and I don't really see that happen given their recent performances...
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On August 04 2015 16:22 Xendarii wrote: I agree with the people saying that C9 can beat everyone - however I've kinda lost hope that will take them far in this tournament because of their inconsistency and their drafting issues. To finish top 3 or whatever their aim might be, they need to win bo3's against teams that are just playing and drafting more stable and I don't really see that happen given their recent performances...
Some people were saying that this used to be true but is not anymore, and I tend to agree. With this new lineup while they haven't lost to bad teams on LAN, it's not like they've beaten a lot of the top contenders either.
After that CDEC game I don't have much expectations. I'll be positively surprised if they manage to make some sort of a run, but I wouldn't be surprised if VG just takes it.
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Yeah, if was into betting, I'd go with VG today... Which really hurts my heart.
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Damnnnn. C9 Vici. C9 looks crappy and no longer special in their drafts. I think that's the end for them.
I also wonder when teams start realising legion is not a counter to PL. Neither is mjolnir. The 2 counters are a strong mid game push lineup, and cleave gaming.
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On August 04 2015 18:45 DucK- wrote: Damnnnn. C9 Vici. C9 looks crappy and no longer special in their drafts. I think that's the end for them.
I also wonder when teams start realising legion is not a counter to PL. Neither is mjolnir. The 2 counters are a strong mid game push lineup, and cleave gaming. Well it's not just about them being crappy considering the history between 2 teams c9 always lost to VG except that one time on MDL.. So i say they are pretty much done-zo
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