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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 04 2015 02:32 GMT
#1141
On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:
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On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote:
the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed

cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again

we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely

in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely

Yep classic bone7 no stun draft

Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan


i would be less disappointed if he drafted in his typical style if he at least tried to either counter cdec's common picks or deny them

they managed neither
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:00:53
August 04 2015 02:50 GMT
#1142
On August 04 2015 10:19 Sabu113 wrote:
Waste of an amazing bracket.

What were they doing all weekend?

Yeah the bracket was like god sent to them now AND of course they are climbing it the hard way again lol gr8 job c9



On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote:
the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed

cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again

we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely

in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely

Yep classic bone7 no stun draft

Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan

i know that EE has this pattern on drafts on important matches like where game 1 they stomp game 2 they lose game 3 he goes full retard on drafts

but bone is so hit and miss on drafts ... game 1 draft is alright i believe so they must have just been outplayed by cdec, game 2 draft is the we are all gonna die to PL draft

oh well at least my boys from lgd won against empire
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:12:10
August 04 2015 03:11 GMT
#1143
piledriver's characterization is spot on

c9 used to have some OP feeling pocket drafts but now their stronger pocket drafts still never feel OP and their execution is rarely 10/10, even against way inferior teams that they 2-0
posting on liquid sites in current year
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 03:12 GMT
#1144
On August 04 2015 11:50 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:19 Sabu113 wrote:
Waste of an amazing bracket.

What were they doing all weekend?

Yeah the bracket was like god sent to them now AND of course they are climbing it the hard way again lol gr8 job c9



Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 11:27 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 11:15 Kraznaya wrote:
the most disappointing to me was the lack of preparation their draft showed

cdec preferred dire to the point that literally all of their games during the group stage were on dire; they get dire both times again

we saw aggressif gyrocopter, shiki lina, and garder BH dominate during the group stage; c9 give up those heroes freely

in addition their drafts had little or no hard catch against BH track, which became a disaster during the midgame of both games as they were kited freely

Yep classic bone7 no stun draft

Bone drafts have been so hit or miss, I haven't been a fan

i know that EE has this pattern on drafts on important matches like where game 1 they stomp game 2 they lose game 3 he goes full retard on drafts

but bone is so hit and miss on drafts ... game 1 draft is alright i believe so they must have just been outplayed by cdec, game 2 draft is the we are all gonna die to PL draft

oh well at least my boys from lgd won against empire


At this point I'm rooting for Aui/USA; C9 might win a series tmr but it's gonna to be false hope
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
August 04 2015 03:19 GMT
#1145
Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well.
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 03:23 GMT
#1146
On August 04 2015 12:19 goody153 wrote:
Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well.


Envy needs to just eat his ego and join EG when fear retires
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#1147
On August 04 2015 12:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
piledriver's characterization is spot on

c9 used to have some OP feeling pocket drafts but now their stronger pocket drafts still never feel OP and their execution is rarely 10/10, even against way inferior teams that they 2-0

IG says "hi"

I still feel the drafting is the overachieving problem, with equal lineups there are not many teams stronger than C9. They have been a consistent top 6 contender throughout the year (and looked nigh unbeatable at the end of .83).
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 03:57:34
August 04 2015 03:57 GMT
#1148
On August 04 2015 12:23 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 12:19 goody153 wrote:
Well with that loss i'm not even gonna expect from them anymore while the tournament is not over they had their chances. Whatever i hope at least my boys from lgd and/or secret keep doing well.


Envy needs to just eat his ego and join EG when fear retires

this time there ain't no rtz from eg that wants to team up with him and iirc he mentioned something about not wanting to leave bone so idk .. he's doomed i guess
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yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 04:29:31
August 04 2015 04:02 GMT
#1149
HOLY SHIT
wrong thread

but c9 no hope left
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
August 04 2015 04:03 GMT
#1150


looks like fata is correct about him more like having fun than winning we fucking lost
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
August 04 2015 04:24 GMT
#1151
Wut?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
August 04 2015 04:42 GMT
#1152
On August 04 2015 13:24 Sabu113 wrote:
Wut?

“We have a lot of fun in Cloud9. You could even say we don’t really play to win but to have fun with each other.”

-fata

http://gaming.benq.nl/news/news/fata-and-mushi-talk-about-the-international-5-1/
this is a quote
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 04:45 GMT
#1153
On August 04 2015 13:42 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 13:24 Sabu113 wrote:
Wut?

“We have a lot of fun in Cloud9. You could even say we don’t really play to win but to have fun with each other.”

-fata

http://gaming.benq.nl/news/news/fata-and-mushi-talk-about-the-international-5-1/


can't believe an envy led team would say that lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
August 04 2015 04:45 GMT
#1154
On August 04 2015 13:45 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 13:42 goody153 wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:24 Sabu113 wrote:
Wut?

“We have a lot of fun in Cloud9. You could even say we don’t really play to win but to have fun with each other.”

-fata

http://gaming.benq.nl/news/news/fata-and-mushi-talk-about-the-international-5-1/


can't believe an envy led team would say that lol

rofl yeah this is so not envy
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PuercoPop
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Peru277 Posts
August 04 2015 06:11 GMT
#1155
C9, even though a hard blow was dealt I'm confident that you will pull through and finish top 3 at least. Bone322 has a lot of clutch plays to offer. So does BigDaddy and Misery!
The Proof of the Pudding is in the eating!
Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
August 04 2015 07:22 GMT
#1156
I agree with the people saying that C9 can beat everyone - however I've kinda lost hope that will take them far in this tournament because of their inconsistency and their drafting issues. To finish top 3 or whatever their aim might be, they need to win bo3's against teams that are just playing and drafting more stable and I don't really see that happen given their recent performances...
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 04 2015 09:17 GMT
#1157
On August 04 2015 16:22 Xendarii wrote:
I agree with the people saying that C9 can beat everyone - however I've kinda lost hope that will take them far in this tournament because of their inconsistency and their drafting issues. To finish top 3 or whatever their aim might be, they need to win bo3's against teams that are just playing and drafting more stable and I don't really see that happen given their recent performances...


Some people were saying that this used to be true but is not anymore, and I tend to agree. With this new lineup while they haven't lost to bad teams on LAN, it's not like they've beaten a lot of the top contenders either.

After that CDEC game I don't have much expectations. I'll be positively surprised if they manage to make some sort of a run, but I wouldn't be surprised if VG just takes it.

Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
August 04 2015 09:24 GMT
#1158
Yeah, if was into betting, I'd go with VG today... Which really hurts my heart.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 04 2015 09:45 GMT
#1159
Damnnnn. C9 Vici. C9 looks crappy and no longer special in their drafts. I think that's the end for them.

I also wonder when teams start realising legion is not a counter to PL. Neither is mjolnir. The 2 counters are a strong mid game push lineup, and cleave gaming.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
August 04 2015 09:51 GMT
#1160
On August 04 2015 18:45 DucK- wrote:
Damnnnn. C9 Vici. C9 looks crappy and no longer special in their drafts. I think that's the end for them.

I also wonder when teams start realising legion is not a counter to PL. Neither is mjolnir. The 2 counters are a strong mid game push lineup, and cleave gaming.

Well it's not just about them being crappy considering the history between 2 teams c9 always lost to VG except that one time on MDL.. So i say they are pretty much done-zo
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