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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2014 17:20 GMT
#1101
On December 12 2014 02:15 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:05 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2014 02:02 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 12 2014 02:01 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:58 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:56 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:54 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:53 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:49 Comeh wrote:
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.

Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.


I don't even think it's THAT sexist.

i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.

give me a break.

Um...what? Really dude, are you kidding? There are plenty of girls who want nothing to do with the "bad boy."


but is it unrealistic to assume that there are no girls that are into the bad boy? that's my point. maybe its not true for the person that's like..ugh I cant stand bond being such a womanizer.

however, there are PLENTY of girls that would be all over that if he wasn't a character in a movie/book

You assume it's binary and all or nothing. The point is to write more varied female characters, rather than some girl that is, hot, mildly empowered and wants to fuck Bond even though he is a womanizing ass hole.

Bond is at his best when he is set next to women that are equal to him.


oh don't get me wrong, he absolutely is. and I'm not assuming that its binary. I'm just saying, the reason he works as a character is BECAUSE there are women that WOULD do the things that the bond girls do. it works because it is a realistic assumption.

I will agree that there should be a variety and that maybe bond shouldn't sleep with the female protagonist every film..but anyone out there that thinks that bond girls are unrealistic, either forget they are watching a movie or that there are plenty of girls out there that would do the exact same thing IRL

No one thinks they are unrealistic, just sort of done to death and not very interesting. And the idea that all the women he ever encounters are like that is slightly unrealistic.


i'll agree its been done, but that wasn't the point of my original post.

I mean, we're watching a movie. we don't think that james bond himself is slightly unrealistic?

Of course, but 50% of the population is also watching the film and some of them are going "my god, why is this girl falling for him, he is a total ass and womanizer." The population of women who wouldn't sleep with James Bond or fall for his charm would like to be represented, maybe, once every 2-3 movies.

And if you write the same shit over and over, it gets dull. More interesting characters requires better writing.

Edit: M is awesome, but only once character.

I did find it ridiculous that Judi Dench outran Javier Bardem while injured through a burning field at the end of the movie. like ya ok 80 year old women faster than amazing killer guy

She has a really solid lead and that tunnel thing. Watch it again, they are way more than half way across that field before he even notices them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 11 2014 17:23 GMT
#1102
On December 12 2014 02:17 PassiveAce wrote:
this is actually worse then gd somehow

People discussing female characters in bond movies are bad? It's not like they aren't giving some arguments for their opinions, come on passive, this is great. Classic case of "I have this argument I wanna use in this discussion so I'm gonna post it when the first opportunity comes, even if the guy I'm responding agrees with me but is bad with words"
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 11 2014 17:24 GMT
#1103
On December 12 2014 02:18 teddyoojo wrote:
cuz theres no dota in it

dota sucks though
posting on liquid sites in current year
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
December 11 2014 17:25 GMT
#1104
On December 12 2014 02:23 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:17 PassiveAce wrote:
this is actually worse then gd somehow

People discussing female characters in bond movies are bad? It's not like they aren't giving some arguments for their opinions, come on passive, this is great. Classic case of "I have this argument I wanna use in this discussion so I'm gonna post it when the first opportunity comes, even if the guy I'm responding agrees with me but is bad with words"


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:26:57
December 11 2014 17:25 GMT
#1105
On December 12 2014 02:23 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:17 PassiveAce wrote:
this is actually worse then gd somehow

People discussing female characters in bond movies are bad? It's not like they aren't giving some arguments for their opinions, come on passive, this is great. Classic case of "I have this argument I wanna use in this discussion so I'm gonna post it when the first opportunity comes, even if the guy I'm responding agrees with me but is bad with words"

I am going to sort of agree with Qbek here, is been a pretty civil discussion. Though that last part is way off, but I will take what I can get.

Plus Xiphos is banned, so there is no chance of some PUA/MRA non-sense being dropped into the thread to ruin it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 11 2014 17:30 GMT
#1106
Discussing characters using just text is pretty worthless. It is extremely hard to convey what a character feels like and why you think that is not the way it should be, while accounting for the limitations of the genre and the medium.

Last time I discussed lore(and by extension characters) we used words from two very different languages, pictures and videos (maybe even a graph!) and there was still some confusion. Nothing beats sitting together on couch in front of a TV with a bowl of popcorn, pausing the movie and going "I believe this scene should have been done differently because..."
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
December 11 2014 17:37 GMT
#1107
On December 12 2014 02:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:23 Qbek wrote:
On December 12 2014 02:17 PassiveAce wrote:
this is actually worse then gd somehow

People discussing female characters in bond movies are bad? It's not like they aren't giving some arguments for their opinions, come on passive, this is great. Classic case of "I have this argument I wanna use in this discussion so I'm gonna post it when the first opportunity comes, even if the guy I'm responding agrees with me but is bad with words"

I am going to sort of agree with Qbek here, is been a pretty civil discussion. Though that last part is way off, but I will take what I can get.


yeah, I think that last part was way off..i don't necessarily think that anyone was bad with their words there. hence the

muh feelings
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:39:54
December 11 2014 17:38 GMT
#1108
I agree Qbek, cannot just use these forums to explore female protagonist in movies. I think we should consult tumblr, they have more diverse media related to the subject which could prove helpful to everyone. Words on a forum are too archaic.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 11 2014 17:40 GMT
#1109
On December 12 2014 02:37 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:25 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2014 02:23 Qbek wrote:
On December 12 2014 02:17 PassiveAce wrote:
this is actually worse then gd somehow

People discussing female characters in bond movies are bad? It's not like they aren't giving some arguments for their opinions, come on passive, this is great. Classic case of "I have this argument I wanna use in this discussion so I'm gonna post it when the first opportunity comes, even if the guy I'm responding agrees with me but is bad with words"

I am going to sort of agree with Qbek here, is been a pretty civil discussion. Though that last part is way off, but I will take what I can get.


yeah, I think that last part was way off..i don't necessarily think that anyone was bad with their words there. hence the

muh feelings

Who said anything about you? You egocentric!
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 11 2014 17:44 GMT
#1110
It's funny that you brought up tumblr crms. Over the years of evolution of the imperial systems coin of cold in it that you went on in that it and then you say tumblr is bad? At least on tumblr you get realistic views on real life matters like women and homosexuals in today's society. In USA you need to tip where ever you go but in Sweden homosexuals can marry legally everywhere but we also have nice public transportation so we can go pretty much anywhere without ruin Earth with Dodge and Ford trucks, do you guys even think of that in United States?

Some people smh
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:47:04
December 11 2014 17:45 GMT
#1111
On December 12 2014 02:44 Gosi wrote:
It's funny that you brought up tumblr crms. Over the years of evolution of the imperial systems coin of cold in it that you went on in that it and then you say tumblr is bad? At least on tumblr you get realistic views on real life matters like women and homosexuals in today's society. In USA you need to tip where ever you go but in Sweden homosexuals can marry legally everywhere but we also have nice public transportation so we can go pretty much anywhere without ruin Earth with Dodge and Ford trucks, do you guys even think of that in United States?

Some people smh


Wat

I'm sorry I can't follow what's going on in this post at all.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 11 2014 17:47 GMT
#1112
smh is a trigger acronym for me please be sensitive
posting on liquid sites in current year
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 11 2014 17:47 GMT
#1113
On December 12 2014 02:45 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:44 Gosi wrote:
It's funny that you brought up tumblr crms. Over the years of evolution of the imperial systems coin of cold in it that you went on in that it and then you say tumblr is bad? At least on tumblr you get realistic views on real life matters like women and homosexuals in today's society. In USA you need to tip where ever you go but in Sweden homosexuals can marry legally everywhere but we also have nice public transportation so we can go pretty much anywhere without ruin Earth with Dodge and Ford trucks, do you guys even think of that in United States?

Some people smh


Wat

I'm sorry I can't follow what's going on in this post at all.

it's satire dont worry
posting on liquid sites in current year
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:49:34
December 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#1114
I mean, if you want your point of views confirmed, you just pick of you are a femnazi or MRA man-baby then go to either Tumblr or 8chan. Then you can have all your points of view re-enforced until you are an immovable rock of solid, well feed opinions.

If that is what you are looking for.

On December 12 2014 02:45 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:44 Gosi wrote:
It's funny that you brought up tumblr crms. Over the years of evolution of the imperial systems coin of cold in it that you went on in that it and then you say tumblr is bad? At least on tumblr you get realistic views on real life matters like women and homosexuals in today's society. In USA you need to tip where ever you go but in Sweden homosexuals can marry legally everywhere but we also have nice public transportation so we can go pretty much anywhere without ruin Earth with Dodge and Ford trucks, do you guys even think of that in United States?

Some people smh


Wat

I'm sorry I can't follow what's going on in this post at all.


You're not alone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 11 2014 17:53 GMT
#1115
On December 12 2014 02:44 Gosi wrote:
It's funny that you brought up tumblr crms. Over the years of evolution of the imperial systems coin of cold in it that you went on in that it and then you say tumblr is bad? At least on tumblr you get realistic views on real life matters like women and homosexuals in today's society. In USA you need to tip where ever you go but in Sweden homosexuals can marry legally everywhere but we also have nice public transportation so we can go pretty much anywhere without ruin Earth with Dodge and Ford trucks, do you guys even think of that in United States?

Some people smh

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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:55:04
December 11 2014 17:54 GMT
#1116
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 11 2014 17:55 GMT
#1117
but thats just cuz hes old
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2014 18:00 GMT
#1118
I am still trying to figure out what the "imperial coin system of cold" is.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
December 11 2014 18:01 GMT
#1119
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 11 2014 18:01 GMT
#1120
On December 12 2014 03:00 Plansix wrote:
I am still trying to figure out what the "imperial coin system of cold" is.

It's a term for the Canadian monetary system, used commonly across northern america
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