EPTOn December 12 2014 02:15 Comeh wrote:
I did find it ridiculous that Judi Dench outran Javier Bardem while injured through a burning field at the end of the movie. like ya ok 80 year old women faster than amazing killer guy
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On December 12 2014 02:05 Plansix wrote:
Of course, but 50% of the population is also watching the film and some of them are going "my god, why is this girl falling for him, he is a total ass and womanizer." The population of women who wouldn't sleep with James Bond or fall for his charm would like to be represented, maybe, once every 2-3 movies.
And if you write the same shit over and over, it gets dull. More interesting characters requires better writing.
Edit: M is awesome, but only once character.
On December 12 2014 02:02 BluemoonSC wrote:
i'll agree its been done, but that wasn't the point of my original post.
I mean, we're watching a movie. we don't think that james bond himself is slightly unrealistic?
On December 12 2014 02:01 Plansix wrote:
No one thinks they are unrealistic, just sort of done to death and not very interesting. And the idea that all the women he ever encounters are like that is slightly unrealistic.
On December 12 2014 01:58 BluemoonSC wrote:
oh don't get me wrong, he absolutely is. and I'm not assuming that its binary. I'm just saying, the reason he works as a character is BECAUSE there are women that WOULD do the things that the bond girls do. it works because it is a realistic assumption.
I will agree that there should be a variety and that maybe bond shouldn't sleep with the female protagonist every film..but anyone out there that thinks that bond girls are unrealistic, either forget they are watching a movie or that there are plenty of girls out there that would do the exact same thing IRL
On December 12 2014 01:56 Plansix wrote:
You assume it's binary and all or nothing. The point is to write more varied female characters, rather than some girl that is, hot, mildly empowered and wants to fuck Bond even though he is a womanizing ass hole.
Bond is at his best when he is set next to women that are equal to him.
On December 12 2014 01:54 BluemoonSC wrote:
but is it unrealistic to assume that there are no girls that are into the bad boy? that's my point. maybe its not true for the person that's like..ugh I cant stand bond being such a womanizer.
however, there are PLENTY of girls that would be all over that if he wasn't a character in a movie/book
On December 12 2014 01:53 Plansix wrote:
Um...what? Really dude, are you kidding? There are plenty of girls who want nothing to do with the "bad boy."
On December 12 2014 01:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
I don't even think it's THAT sexist.
i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.
give me a break.
On December 12 2014 01:49 Comeh wrote:
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.
Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.
Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.
I don't even think it's THAT sexist.
i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.
give me a break.
Um...what? Really dude, are you kidding? There are plenty of girls who want nothing to do with the "bad boy."
but is it unrealistic to assume that there are no girls that are into the bad boy? that's my point. maybe its not true for the person that's like..ugh I cant stand bond being such a womanizer.
however, there are PLENTY of girls that would be all over that if he wasn't a character in a movie/book
You assume it's binary and all or nothing. The point is to write more varied female characters, rather than some girl that is, hot, mildly empowered and wants to fuck Bond even though he is a womanizing ass hole.
Bond is at his best when he is set next to women that are equal to him.
oh don't get me wrong, he absolutely is. and I'm not assuming that its binary. I'm just saying, the reason he works as a character is BECAUSE there are women that WOULD do the things that the bond girls do. it works because it is a realistic assumption.
I will agree that there should be a variety and that maybe bond shouldn't sleep with the female protagonist every film..but anyone out there that thinks that bond girls are unrealistic, either forget they are watching a movie or that there are plenty of girls out there that would do the exact same thing IRL
No one thinks they are unrealistic, just sort of done to death and not very interesting. And the idea that all the women he ever encounters are like that is slightly unrealistic.
i'll agree its been done, but that wasn't the point of my original post.
I mean, we're watching a movie. we don't think that james bond himself is slightly unrealistic?
Of course, but 50% of the population is also watching the film and some of them are going "my god, why is this girl falling for him, he is a total ass and womanizer." The population of women who wouldn't sleep with James Bond or fall for his charm would like to be represented, maybe, once every 2-3 movies.
And if you write the same shit over and over, it gets dull. More interesting characters requires better writing.
Edit: M is awesome, but only once character.
I did find it ridiculous that Judi Dench outran Javier Bardem while injured through a burning field at the end of the movie. like ya ok 80 year old women faster than amazing killer guy
She has a really solid lead and that tunnel thing. Watch it again, they are way more than half way across that field before he even notices them.
