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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 11 2014 16:44 GMT
#1061
dunno, I really enjoyed skyfall. I thought it brought bond back into it's glory. maybe not like the older films, but I think Daniel craig makes a great bond.

I cant find the article but I was reading somewhere that this movie is going to stop making the bond girls how they've always been portrayed where bond is saving them and they are all attracted to him and whatnot.

IMO, that's just bullshit. idc what your political agenda is, if a chick is attracted to a suave guy, why does that have to have sexist connotations?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:47:31
December 11 2014 16:45 GMT
#1062
o snomans a mod thats cool

@Bluemoon
the hero rescuing the princess is A LITTLE played out at this point. no need for that kind of crap trope imo. would like to see some more original scriptwriting
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:48:24
December 11 2014 16:46 GMT
#1063
The entire point of James bond is to be chauvinist, and women (even feminist friends of mine) love it.

It just so happens that Daniel Craig is attractive enough to make it okay.

:crazy:

On December 12 2014 01:44 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:42 Comeh wrote:
Also, there is no way Christoph Waltz is going to be a better bond villain than he played in Inglorious Basterds.

christoph waltz is one of the best actors there is tho


Yeah but they won't write him well enough to make it worthwhile, just like javier bardem. Skyfall was basically a weaker version of the dark knight and a lame coming of age story.
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Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 11 2014 16:47 GMT
#1064
On December 12 2014 01:44 BluemoonSC wrote:
dunno, I really enjoyed skyfall. I thought it brought bond back into it's glory. maybe not like the older films, but I think Daniel craig makes a great bond.

I cant find the article but I was reading somewhere that this movie is going to stop making the bond girls how they've always been portrayed where bond is saving them and they are all attracted to him and whatnot.

IMO, that's just bullshit. idc what your political agenda is, if a chick is attracted to a suave guy, why does that have to have sexist connotations?



Because everything is sexist.

Everything.

You can pretty much make an argument for absolutely any film/book/whatever form of media being sexist if you want to.



That being said...dunno...maybe they'll do something interesting with it.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2014 16:48 GMT
#1065
On December 12 2014 01:44 BluemoonSC wrote:
dunno, I really enjoyed skyfall. I thought it brought bond back into it's glory. maybe not like the older films, but I think Daniel craig makes a great bond.

I cant find the article but I was reading somewhere that this movie is going to stop making the bond girls how they've always been portrayed where bond is saving them and they are all attracted to him and whatnot.

IMO, that's just bullshit. idc what your political agenda is, if a chick is attracted to a suave guy, why does that have to have sexist connotations?

I don't know, in Quantum of Solace bond helped the girl get revenge and become more awesome. The damsel in distress that is also super attracted to Bond has sort of been done to death and is boring at this point. The only real question is "what act will Bond bone this girl".

Bring me more ladies like Vesper or Camille and I will be fine.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 11 2014 16:48 GMT
#1066
On December 12 2014 01:46 Comeh wrote:
The entire point of James bond is to be chauvinist, and women (even feminist friends of mine) love it.

It just so happens that Daniel Craig is attractive enough to make it okay.

:crazy:


exactly. I don't see why movies have to be politically correct..its complete fantasy and unrealistic. I mean, watch the damn movie and tell me that anyone who is in their right mind would be like...

"well, I cant help but feel like girls falling all over bond is anything short of sexist. it's ruining my immersion"
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 11 2014 16:49 GMT
#1067
On December 12 2014 01:48 Plansix wrote:

Bring me more ladies like Vesper or Camille and I will be fine.



Pretty sure if your own lady found out you people were bringing you them you wouldn't be fine. ;P
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:49:48
December 11 2014 16:49 GMT
#1068
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.

Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:51:02
December 11 2014 16:50 GMT
#1069
On December 12 2014 01:48 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:46 Comeh wrote:
The entire point of James bond is to be chauvinist, and women (even feminist friends of mine) love it.

It just so happens that Daniel Craig is attractive enough to make it okay.

:crazy:


exactly. I don't see why movies have to be politically correct..its complete fantasy and unrealistic. I mean, watch the damn movie and tell me that anyone who is in their right mind would be like...

"well, I cant help but feel like girls falling all over bond is anything short of sexist. it's ruining my immersion"

The point is that the writers could write some women that don't respond well to Bond being chauvinist and playboy, rather than every woman falling into bed with him.

Keep James Bond a womanizing ass hole, but make a few women who are not totally into that and it would be a nice change of pace.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 11 2014 16:50 GMT
#1070
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:51:15
December 11 2014 16:51 GMT
#1071
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:52:54
December 11 2014 16:51 GMT
#1072
On December 12 2014 01:49 Comeh wrote:
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.

Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.


I don't even think it's THAT sexist.

i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.

give me a break.

On December 12 2014 01:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:48 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:46 Comeh wrote:
The entire point of James bond is to be chauvinist, and women (even feminist friends of mine) love it.

It just so happens that Daniel Craig is attractive enough to make it okay.

:crazy:


exactly. I don't see why movies have to be politically correct..its complete fantasy and unrealistic. I mean, watch the damn movie and tell me that anyone who is in their right mind would be like...

"well, I cant help but feel like girls falling all over bond is anything short of sexist. it's ruining my immersion"

The point is that the writers could write some women that don't respond well to Bond being chauvinist and playboy, rather than every woman falling into bed with him.

Keep James Bond a womanizing ass hole, but make a few women who are not totally into that and it would be a nice change of pace.


I mean, lets be honest. we all have a friend that's a womanizing asshole that has been turned down by a girl for being an asshole..and he still sleeps with her. I just find that unrealistic.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:52:15
December 11 2014 16:52 GMT
#1073
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?

eddie murphy
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 11 2014 16:52 GMT
#1074
On December 12 2014 01:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:49 Comeh wrote:
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.

Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.


I don't even think it's THAT sexist.

i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.

give me a break.

I just get slightly annoyed when girls hate Sean Connery as bond because hes too chauvinist. like ya ok just cuz hes not hot to you doesn't mean he was a bad bond ur just blinded by hot men
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:52:36
December 11 2014 16:52 GMT
#1075
On December 12 2014 01:52 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?

eddie murphy

He has to be British.

edit sorry for double post
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 11 2014 16:52 GMT
#1076
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?

asian ninja bond would be pretty dope imo

or just a straight up blaxploitation film would be nice
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2014 16:53 GMT
#1077
On December 12 2014 01:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:49 Comeh wrote:
I don't mind intelligent female characters that have depth, but like, James Bond is going to be sexist. It just is.

Quantum of Solace was an awful movie.


I don't even think it's THAT sexist.

i mean..like there's never been a woman in the history of women that have seen an attractive, dangerous dude and said "I want to have sex with that man." I'm sure all of us know a woman that has done this exact thing.

give me a break.

Um...what? Really dude, are you kidding? There are plenty of girls who want nothing to do with the "bad boy."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 11 2014 16:53 GMT
#1078
On December 12 2014 01:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?

asian ninja bond would be pretty dope imo

or just a straight up blaxploitation film would be nice

Live and Let Die is pretty much a blaxploitation film.

And by that i mean its racist as hell
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 11 2014 16:53 GMT
#1079
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?


Idris Elba
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 11 2014 16:54 GMT
#1080
On December 12 2014 01:52 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:52 teddyoojo wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:51 Comeh wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:50 PassiveAce wrote:
I would bet there will eventually be a genderswapped bond film.

I'm betting all of my money in the world the next bond won't be white.

Who would make a good non-white bond?

eddie murphy

He has to be British.

edit sorry for double post

TIL all james bonds are british
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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