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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 28 2020 22:15 GMT
#206741
On August 29 2020 06:30 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 01:28 cecek wrote:
On August 22 2020 18:18 Slomo wrote:
Tenet is coming out next week and I am HYPED.
But the Corona-situation still got me worried.

Going next Friday!

I am almost more hyped for the Dune trailer that should play before the movie than the movie itself, lol.

How did you like it? I just got home from the theater.

My advice for everybody whos going to watch it, bring some hearing protection. It is too goddamn loud at parts.

Definitely bring hearing protection, the movie extraordinarily loud.

And I didn't really enjoy the movie that much. I'm a big Nolan fan and this is by quite a margin my least favorite of his movie. The action sequences are great and spectacular, I liked the most of the actor performances, but some of the dialogue and plot points I legit hated, there's also some other stuff I didn't like but that might be spoilers. So overall I'd say I was disappointed. Oh, and they didn't show the Dune teaser so that also didn't help.
super gg
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 01:45:04
August 29 2020 01:44 GMT
#206742
I know this isn't actually off-topic, but it didn't seem like there was an actual main DotA discussion thread anywhere, so hopefully this isn't off-topic for the off-topic thread by being on-topic lolol.

Basically, is the dota battle gauntlet thing on NA only from 6:00 - 6:15 PM PST? From googling, that seems to be the time, but in the actual game client it actually says 6:00 - 6:30 PM PST :S
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 29 2020 10:57 GMT
#206743
On August 29 2020 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
I know this isn't actually off-topic, but it didn't seem like there was an actual main DotA discussion thread anywhere, so hopefully this isn't off-topic for the off-topic thread by being on-topic lolol.

Basically, is the dota battle gauntlet thing on NA only from 6:00 - 6:15 PM PST? From googling, that seems to be the time, but in the actual game client it actually says 6:00 - 6:30 PM PST :S

idk nobody plays it and ive only heard its awful
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 29 2020 13:16 GMT
#206744
is that true for dota too or is it fun these days? haven't played any games for a while

I'm completely off the Nolan hype train. I think Insomnia was maybe his best movie and massive budgets have been a distraction more than anything. There's a lack of focus and polish in the end product. Of course some of that is a direct result of large budget, having to cross our more boxes for more sweet money. Blockbuster is more or less a genre movie these days.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 16:19:02
August 29 2020 16:07 GMT
#206745
On August 29 2020 22:16 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
is that true for dota too or is it fun these days? haven't played any games for a while

I'm completely off the Nolan hype train. I think Insomnia was maybe his best movie and massive budgets have been a distraction more than anything. There's a lack of focus and polish in the end product. Of course some of that is a direct result of large budget, having to cross our more boxes for more sweet money. Blockbuster is more or less a genre movie these days.

Interstellar, Inception, and Dunkirk were all fantastic movies, imo. Of course they are not transcendental pieces of art or something like that, but they're all super entertaining and well made. Tenet is kind of also like that in some aspects, but it's so fucking dumb and bad in other.
super gg
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 30 2020 17:47 GMT
#206746
On August 28 2020 23:41 PassiveAce wrote:
Grats eieio!! Glad your happy with it

Faru lemme know if you're up for some coop on Saturday?

Sorry!! just reading this

i dont have it no PC and xbox has no cross platform ffs
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-31 20:01:37
August 31 2020 08:06 GMT
#206747
On August 29 2020 19:57 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2020 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
I know this isn't actually off-topic, but it didn't seem like there was an actual main DotA discussion thread anywhere, so hopefully this isn't off-topic for the off-topic thread by being on-topic lolol.

Basically, is the dota battle gauntlet thing on NA only from 6:00 - 6:15 PM PST? From googling, that seems to be the time, but in the actual game client it actually says 6:00 - 6:30 PM PST :S

idk nobody plays it and ive only heard its awful

Ahh kk that's fine then lolol

Holy fuck though I fucking hate playing this game alone, it's literally a drug how I keep playing despite having no fun and fucking over my sanity

Anyway, uh, Tenet yeah. It makes sense that it would be enjoyed much more in theaters, but I'm kind of at risk so RIP any chances of catching it there (too risky for my risk tolerance here) LOLOL
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 31 2020 09:48 GMT
#206748
On August 31 2020 17:06 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2020 19:57 rabidch wrote:
On August 29 2020 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
I know this isn't actually off-topic, but it didn't seem like there was an actual main DotA discussion thread anywhere, so hopefully this isn't off-topic for the off-topic thread by being on-topic lolol.

Basically, is the dota battle gauntlet thing on NA only from 6:00 - 6:15 PM PST? From googling, that seems to be the time, but in the actual game client it actually says 6:00 - 6:30 PM PST :S

idk nobody plays it and ive only heard its awful

Ahh kk that's fine then lolol

Holy fuck though I fucking hate playing this game alone, it's literally a drug how I keep playing despite having no fun and fucking over my sanity

Anyway, uh, Tenet yeah. It makes sense that it would be enjoyed much more in theaters, but I'm kind of at risk so RIP any chances of catching it there(too risky for my risk tolerance here).

if you live in west coast time the stack i play with normally plays 10pm-12am
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ingartek
Profile Joined September 2020
1 Post
September 01 2020 18:59 GMT
#206749
jojojo

User was warned for this post
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
September 02 2020 01:24 GMT
#206750
when does witcher 3 get good help im so bored
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
September 02 2020 03:01 GMT
#206751
On September 02 2020 10:24 eieio wrote:
when does witcher 3 get good help im so bored

If it's not gripping you from the first 10 hours I'd drop the game. The gameplay and combat is largely the same from its tutorial area and it is very character and plot driven as a motivation, so if you are bored already there isn't that much more you'll get from it.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 02 2020 10:23 GMT
#206752
On September 02 2020 10:24 eieio wrote:
when does witcher 3 get good help im so bored

it speeds up after Velen. It took me quite a while to get past that zone, but once you're in Novigrad, it gets better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-02 13:12:55
September 02 2020 13:12 GMT
#206753
Yeah if you don't get tingles from any of the side quests after a while then its probably not for you
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-03 16:22:36
September 03 2020 16:22 GMT
#206754
On September 02 2020 10:24 eieio wrote:
when does witcher 3 get good help im so bored

skip to Blood and Wine and just spend all day galloping around the beautiful Toussaint countryside
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 03 2020 19:57 GMT
#206755
I kind of agree with every statement about Witcher 3 that's been posted
passive quaranstream fan
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 03 2020 22:01 GMT
#206756
Witcher 3 never gets better in terms of gameplay, in fact, death march is pretty awful for that particular reason, game is hard but its not fun being hard.

Kinda the reason i could never replay it.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
September 04 2020 02:54 GMT
#206757
I dropped it, I played for a few hours in Novigrad and I was kinda interested in the story. I appreciated the sidequests - I liked that they felt real / not like cheap shitty find-5-items quests or whatever (RDR2 does this really well too).

But:
  • The gameplay was just wildly frustrating to me, like, man, fighting shit was simply not fun for me at all
  • I felt like there were an overwhelming number of decisions that I didn't care about that the game was asking me to make: ability points and gear and mutagens and a million potion ingredients and making sure my sword didn't break and runes and just too many fucking things
  • I was simply not excited, whatever, people like different things it's fine.


I started playing subnautica instead.

My second bullet there is something I've been thinking about a lot (since I've been playing a lot of games during the pandemic). One thing that was pretty eye opening to me was that I played Uncharted 4 and I loved just not needing to, like, think a bunch about a bunch of RPG bullshit: all I had to think about were the two guns that my character had at any point (and the story, which is hyper-linear).

I kind of appreciated this with RDR2. There's not a hyper linear story, and there are plenty of things that you can do in the game but honestly there are very few things that the game forces you to think about. I didn't give a shit about hunting or herbs in the game so I...didn't do those things and didn't feel punished for it. I didn't feel obligated to look shit up or figure out how all the systems in the game worked: I could just focus on the experience of the game.

This is pretty different from how I played games when I was younger. Just like when I wanted to be the best (lol, mid masters at best) at SC2 or whatever and needed to know fukin everything, I think I convinced myself that the fun thing about games was being thrown into a super complex set of decisions and figuring out how to make them optimally. But either that wasn't ever true or it just isn't true for me anymore. I make lots of decisions all day at work and I kinda just want to experience a story or experience fun gameplay and not think super hard about shit that doesn't matter that much to me.

Anyway idk my preferences have changed I guess

(sidenote: I spent a while like a month ago ranking every game I've played in the last 4 years and it was super fun)
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
September 04 2020 05:14 GMT
#206758
You raise a good point with the second bullet that's also been stewing in my mind lately. There's an overwhelming amount of rather unharmonious or dull systems being thrown at you lately and most of them feel added in more to maintain a mirage of gameplay progression because people like seeing numbers grow larger or to be "realistic" like with gear degradation. It rarely works well.

Open world action games from Ubisoft or even God of War 2018 have taken to tossing in skill trees, RPG mechanics and crafting that don't mesh too well with the overall gameplay. It's strange to number crunch or consider gear progression along with shooting or hacking and slashing, and end up fighting damage sponges because my loot was too underleveled or my build was bad. Gear degradation or crafting makes sense in a survival game, but it's more tedious and annoying outside of those genres unless it's really baked into its design.

As for TW3, there's a decent bunch of systems, but you examine them further and realize they are quite bland. You'd think on the highest difficulty you should master or at least explore all of them, but I never felt the compulsion. They're either passive percentage increases (oils, bombs, runes, potions, most of the skill tree) or feel poorly balanced like with the loot and crafting system. I thought TW1 did a far better job of crafting towards truly unique and powerful gear, potions that mattered and a better sense of progression as Geralt re-learned signs, even if like two were only useful.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
September 04 2020 06:37 GMT
#206759
Yea TW3 had a lot of systems that you could just completely ignore unless you played on Death March (even then you can beat it without min maxing or worrying about the RPG elements). I just focused on the story and progressed my character without putting much thought into it.

With that being said, if the game isn't for you then it's not for you. No problem with that.
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 04 2020 06:41 GMT
#206760
After my first playthough I modded w3 so that I had no trouble with the fighting and stuff never broke.
better story experience that way
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