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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 13:00 GMT
#206781
tbf battle royales is the inevitable result of dayz, the insane casualization of the genre

if you look at it like that:

dayz -> massive amounts of downtime, running around, etc. etc. , insanely intense situations due to said downtimes since u dying was so costly so it got ur blood pumping and shit

following was arma3 battle royale -> about a 1 hour experience, insanely technical with a shitton of downtime and therefore alot more intense and exciting in the action situations

-> pubg, basically a casual and fixed clone of arma3 battle royale (same creator anyways, basically playerunknown is what icefrog is to dota, pubg = dota2, arma3 = dota1, actually good analogy im surprised)

along comes fortnite, much less downtime, therefore fights arent as exciting (due to the "who cares its not so bad if u die"), alot of casual bullshit added draws very easy comparison to lol, an alright game, very little depth and very little that keeps a non 13 year old interested for more than a month (like lol)

then comes apex, which is insanely dumb, takes mechanics from a fucking pve game and puts them into a multiplayer game, removes alot of the penalties from dying, for example being able to get revived even after being completely dead, makes looting almost irrelevant, makes dying almost irrelevant, moving closer and closer to just a deathmatch on a big map.

then comes warzone and i honest to god cannot understand why people play this, its literally not even a battle royale anymore, we arrived at the inevitable straight up death match, u get revived like 237 times, looting matters not, shooting is the usual call of duty (which in itself is terrible, casual and really uninteresting to me) its basically what the idea of a battle royale of a 12 yo with adhd would look like.
like the only difference between tthis and death match is that someone people enjoy winning in warzone over winning death match even tho whats the difference

-----

basically to me its the downtime, the effort u put into ur character that makes this genre exciting, dayz obviously being by far the slowest game, i still remember hearts literally pounding it was crazy.

ok this didnt have much to do with dayz but dayz always great game even tho they butchered it but the time playing arma2 dayz was insanely good, turned into a rant of how shit BR genre has become because theyre just pandering to their audience of fuicking dumbass little kids i hate this shit why am i old even i wish i would like dumb shit games and wasnt literally 100 years old
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 13:01 GMT
#206782
fuck i feel like i wrote an essay kill me now that was more words than my last 1000 posts on this site combined
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-05 13:05:00
September 05 2020 13:04 GMT
#206783
Someone on my friends list gave dayz a very negative review with 18 hours played at time of writing and now he has 150 hours played lmao

OH WAIT ITS YOU TEDDY AHAHAHA
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 13:10 GMT
#206784
i stand by it
i still play wc3 reforged, what u think is my opinion of that.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 05 2020 13:12 GMT
#206785
The best part of dayz was absolutely the sense of losing your progression at any moment. That's what gives it the tension that all it's successors are missing.

Apparently the dayz standalone has 20k players on steam stats and a decent score on the "recent review" section.
Kinda make me want to give it a shot lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 05 2020 13:12 GMT
#206786
On September 05 2020 22:10 teddyoojo wrote:
i stand by it
i still play wc3 reforged, what u think is my opinion of that.

Never change, friend
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 13:12 GMT
#206787
i felt the same
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 13:13 GMT
#206788
anyone else on here that owns the game that wants to paly maybe
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 05 2020 13:18 GMT
#206789
I'm moving to a new apartment in a few hours and I probably won't have my internet set up until later in the evening but I'm down

Where andy?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 05 2020 17:32 GMT
#206790


lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
September 05 2020 18:46 GMT
#206791
On September 05 2020 22:12 PassiveAce wrote:
The best part of dayz was absolutely the sense of losing your progression at any moment. That's what gives it the tension that all it's successors are missing.

Apparently the dayz standalone has 20k players on steam stats and a decent score on the "recent review" section.
Kinda make me want to give it a shot lol

Shroud and Summit have been playing it on stream recently. A lot of the major issues seem to have been fixed, although they are on modded servers I think.

And yea I agree, the progression was a big rush in old dayz. Although it was also tilting because I remember my first ever super kitted character that was alive for a week dying 10 minutes after I found a DMR for the first time. Saddest day of my life.

Also Teddy you forgot about h1z1 in your essay.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2020 18:57 GMT
#206792
does not deserve a spot was some dumb clone that was worse
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34496 Posts
September 05 2020 19:28 GMT
#206793
New WR arcana looks amazing. Too bad it's still £100 for me
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 05 2020 21:11 GMT
#206794
Outrage as EA Shoves Real World Ads Into UFC 4 After Review Period Is Over

smh
© Current year.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 05 2020 21:59 GMT
#206795
On September 06 2020 03:46 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2020 22:12 PassiveAce wrote:
The best part of dayz was absolutely the sense of losing your progression at any moment. That's what gives it the tension that all it's successors are missing.

Apparently the dayz standalone has 20k players on steam stats and a decent score on the "recent review" section.
Kinda make me want to give it a shot lol

Shroud and Summit have been playing it on stream recently. A lot of the major issues seem to have been fixed, although they are on modded servers I think.

And yea I agree, the progression was a big rush in old dayz. Although it was also tilting because I remember my first ever super kitted character that was alive for a week dying 10 minutes after I found a DMR for the first time. Saddest day of my life.

Also Teddy you forgot about h1z1 in your essay.

DX
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 05 2020 23:47 GMT
#206796
On September 06 2020 06:11 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
Outrage as EA Shoves Real World Ads Into UFC 4 After Review Period Is Over

smh

Iv heard it's been getting kinda shit reviews :/
I liked the last one
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
emtiyaz120369
Profile Joined September 2020
1 Post
Last Edited: 2020-09-06 05:08:00
September 06 2020 05:07 GMT
#206797
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44231 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-06 13:04:39
September 06 2020 12:25 GMT
#206798
What's your favorite sim games ? I've been playing so many random sim games lately (lots of sc2 too)

(sim games i have tried are rust to ruins, factorio, cell to singularity, islanders, mindustry but still looking for the golden one that fits my taste perfectly)
this is a quote
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 06 2020 13:31 GMT
#206799
On September 05 2020 22:00 teddyoojo wrote:
then comes warzone and i honest to god cannot understand why people play this, its literally not even a battle royale anymore, we arrived at the inevitable straight up death match, u get revived like 237 times, looting matters not, shooting is the usual call of duty (which in itself is terrible, casual and really uninteresting to me) its basically what the idea of a battle royale of a 12 yo with adhd would look like.
like the only difference between tthis and death match is that someone people enjoy winning in warzone over winning death match even tho whats the difference

solo doesn't have those issues with only a gulag fight to come back

cost not scaling up with team size is kind of an issue when its so easy to pool money together
© Current year.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 06 2020 15:23 GMT
#206800
The Boys S2 is so fucking good so far.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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