On September 27 2014 00:15 cecek wrote:
Don't bring actual logic into this discussion! What are you doing!!??
Don't bring actual logic into this discussion! What are you doing!!??
i'm so sorry. send me to low priority for my sins D:
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:15 cecek wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:14 BluemoonSC wrote: On September 26 2014 22:34 Laserist wrote: I think it is like basketball where when the score difference high, your single scores count as 4-5-6-7 because you are behind. except in basketball, your advantages don't earn you additional edges that add to your speed, agility, or stamina. Don't bring actual logic into this discussion! What are you doing!!?? i'm so sorry. send me to low priority for my sins D: | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
My initial thoughts are - very. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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blobrus
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
I guess his aura and ult scale well into lategame. | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
I dunno its awkward. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:16 lolfail9001 wrote: Welp, i mean, i guess i knew spec would be pretty good in pubs now but.... wait, wtf is that winrate. As Snowman pointed out, the saddest part about that is the builds people are using on her. Vaguard is the most bought item.... | ||
Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:13 cecek wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:07 Asymmetric wrote: On September 26 2014 23:40 idonthinksobro wrote: ![]() You know something very, very odd is going on when Medusa has that high a winrate in pubs. I haven't played with or against Medusa in 6.82 yet, but I think the ystic snake MS buff is pretty damn big. If you look at just the numbers, the spell was nuts for the laning phase already. The problem was that it never hit if you tried to bounce it off a couple creeps. In 6.82 the MS of the snake got increased from 633 to 800, that seems really big, I bet you hit heroes a lot more often now. Her mana shield and the mana steal on the snake also got buffed. And her ult is probably better now, a lot more spells use physical damage now, so they should work better with stone form, right? There also might be something weird going on with how some of the spells that had their damage type changed interact with her mana shield. Stuff like this adds up really quickly, I'm not surprised she's doing well in pubs. While her buffs are by no means negligble, she is still fundamentally an ultra late-carry. Just look at void. He was nerfed this patch yet his winrate has sky rocked upwards, likely largely due to the bounty/exp changes just like medusa. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:20 Asymmetric wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:13 cecek wrote: On September 27 2014 00:07 Asymmetric wrote: On September 26 2014 23:40 idonthinksobro wrote: ![]() You know something very, very odd is going on when Medusa has that high a winrate in pubs. I haven't played with or against Medusa in 6.82 yet, but I think the ystic snake MS buff is pretty damn big. If you look at just the numbers, the spell was nuts for the laning phase already. The problem was that it never hit if you tried to bounce it off a couple creeps. In 6.82 the MS of the snake got increased from 633 to 800, that seems really big, I bet you hit heroes a lot more often now. Her mana shield and the mana steal on the snake also got buffed. And her ult is probably better now, a lot more spells use physical damage now, so they should work better with stone form, right? There also might be something weird going on with how some of the spells that had their damage type changed interact with her mana shield. Stuff like this adds up really quickly, I'm not surprised she's doing well in pubs. While her buffs are by no means negligble, she is still fundamentally an ultra late-carry. Just look at void. He was nerfed this patch yet his winrate has sky rocked upwards, likely largely due to the bounty/exp changes just like medusa. His win rate when from 53% to 53%, look at the graph. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:20 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:16 lolfail9001 wrote: Welp, i mean, i guess i knew spec would be pretty good in pubs now but.... wait, wtf is that winrate. As Snowman pointed out, the saddest part about that is the builds people are using on her. Vaguard is the most bought item.... VG's buildable on spec even before the upgrade. Because u actually need the dmg block in lane, the regen in lane, and the hp midgame plus it lets u afk jungle or tank lane creeps while still being full hp to ult into fights. I still hate it and prefer naked vit booster into rad or w/e whenever possible but it isn't always possible. | ||
Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:21 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:20 Asymmetric wrote: On September 27 2014 00:13 cecek wrote: On September 27 2014 00:07 Asymmetric wrote: On September 26 2014 23:40 idonthinksobro wrote: ![]() You know something very, very odd is going on when Medusa has that high a winrate in pubs. I haven't played with or against Medusa in 6.82 yet, but I think the ystic snake MS buff is pretty damn big. If you look at just the numbers, the spell was nuts for the laning phase already. The problem was that it never hit if you tried to bounce it off a couple creeps. In 6.82 the MS of the snake got increased from 633 to 800, that seems really big, I bet you hit heroes a lot more often now. Her mana shield and the mana steal on the snake also got buffed. And her ult is probably better now, a lot more spells use physical damage now, so they should work better with stone form, right? There also might be something weird going on with how some of the spells that had their damage type changed interact with her mana shield. Stuff like this adds up really quickly, I'm not surprised she's doing well in pubs. While her buffs are by no means negligble, she is still fundamentally an ultra late-carry. Just look at void. He was nerfed this patch yet his winrate has sky rocked upwards, likely largely due to the bounty/exp changes just like medusa. His win rate when from 53% to 53%, look at the graph. Well, admittedly I underesimated the scale, but it still went up. He still got better despite being hit with nerfs. | ||
Fleetfeet
Canada2554 Posts
![]() I'll be curious to see where dota is at in a week or so, after the chaos settles. | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:20 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:16 lolfail9001 wrote: Welp, i mean, i guess i knew spec would be pretty good in pubs now but.... wait, wtf is that winrate. As Snowman pointed out, the saddest part about that is the builds people are using on her. Vaguard is the most bought item.... Vanguard is fine on Spectre, though i'm probably not building it anymore. | ||
cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:21 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2014 00:20 Asymmetric wrote: On September 27 2014 00:13 cecek wrote: On September 27 2014 00:07 Asymmetric wrote: On September 26 2014 23:40 idonthinksobro wrote: ![]() You know something very, very odd is going on when Medusa has that high a winrate in pubs. I haven't played with or against Medusa in 6.82 yet, but I think the ystic snake MS buff is pretty damn big. If you look at just the numbers, the spell was nuts for the laning phase already. The problem was that it never hit if you tried to bounce it off a couple creeps. In 6.82 the MS of the snake got increased from 633 to 800, that seems really big, I bet you hit heroes a lot more often now. Her mana shield and the mana steal on the snake also got buffed. And her ult is probably better now, a lot more spells use physical damage now, so they should work better with stone form, right? There also might be something weird going on with how some of the spells that had their damage type changed interact with her mana shield. Stuff like this adds up really quickly, I'm not surprised she's doing well in pubs. While her buffs are by no means negligble, she is still fundamentally an ultra late-carry. Just look at void. He was nerfed this patch yet his winrate has sky rocked upwards, likely largely due to the bounty/exp changes just like medusa. His win rate when from 53% to 53%, look at the graph. It went form 52.59% to 53.27% source. "Just look at void. He was nerfed this patch yet his winrate has sky rocked upwards, likely largely due to the bounty/exp changes just like medusa." lul | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:23 Sn0_Man wrote: I didn't think I had HotS alpha access but it turns out launching the dota client lets me play HotS now hehehe good one buddy ![]() Only difference is you can play 3 HOTS games in 1 dota game. | ||
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France15845 Posts
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